Using bbdb 2.35 in devel emacs-27

Using bbdb 2.35 in devel emacs-27

[Harry Putnam]

Summary:

Hoping someone will be able to say if bbdb 2.35 will work or mostly
work using devel emacs-27.

Details:

Haven't been using bbdb for about 1.5 - 2 years now but finding a need
to start using my old db again.

I have bbdb-2.35 still kicking around and not crazy about the idea of
converting to v-3.*  especially since my usage is really pretty basic.

I've tried running it (2.35) in devel emacs-(27) and seems to work but of
course I've only tried a few basic things.

Re: Using bbdb 2.35 in devel emacs-27

[Joshua Branson]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> Summary:
>
> Hoping someone will be able to say if bbdb 2.35 will work or mostly
> work using devel emacs-27.
>
> Details:
>
> Haven't been using bbdb for about 1.5 - 2 years now but finding a need
> to start using my old db again.
>
> I have bbdb-2.35 still kicking around and not crazy about the idea of
> converting to v-3.*  especially since my usage is really pretty basic.

Why don't you convert to v-3?  Isn't it bad practice to use outdated software?

>
> I've tried running it (2.35) in devel emacs-(27) and seems to work but of
> course I've only tried a few basic things.

Re: Using bbdb 2.35 in devel emacs-27

[Uwe Brauer]

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   > Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

   > Why don't you convert to v-3?  Isn't it bad practice to use outdated software?

Problem is if you have a lot of hack basing on 2.35 and you are forced
to rewrite them because backward compatibility is broken. 


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Re: Using bbdb 2.35 in devel emacs-27

[Harry Putnam]

Joshua Branson <jbranso@fastmail.com> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>> Summary:
>>
>> Hoping someone will be able to say if bbdb 2.35 will work or mostly
>> work using devel emacs-27.
>>
>> Details:
>>
>> Haven't been using bbdb for about 1.5 - 2 years now but finding a need
>> to start using my old db again.
>>
>> I have bbdb-2.35 still kicking around and not crazy about the idea of
>> converting to v-3.*  especially since my usage is really pretty basic.

> Why don't you convert to v-3?  Isn't it bad practice to use outdated
> software?

Thanks for answering a question with another (less than useful)
question.

I still drive 1998 and 1979 Ford Trucks.  `The replace by date' is
problably something like 2008 on the 1998, and 1989 on the 1979.

[ (- 2018 1987) 31 - OMG & double Yikes]. I've been using outdated
machinery for 31 years.

I probably shouldn't have posted that. It might end in me doing time
if the `Out dated' police see this. (Or even just for being overly
silly .. he he).

Re: Using bbdb 2.35 in devel emacs-27

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "Harry" == Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

   > Summary:
   > Hoping someone will be able to say if bbdb 2.35 will work or mostly
   > work using devel emacs-27.

It does! I still stick to it, since vs 3 broke, deliberately I must say,
backward compatibility. Since I have a lot of bbdb hacks I must rewrite
them, which I still have not find the time to do.


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Re: Using bbdb 2.35 in devel emacs-27

[Thomas Fitzsimmons]

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

>>>> "Harry" == Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>    > Summary:
>    > Hoping someone will be able to say if bbdb 2.35 will work or mostly
>    > work using devel emacs-27.
>
> It does! I still stick to it, since vs 3 broke, deliberately I must say,
> backward compatibility.

Breaking compatibility was a side effect of getting all of the BBDB code
copyright assigned, so that it could be included in GNU.

> Since I have a lot of bbdb hacks I must rewrite them, which I still
> have not find the time to do.

Maybe some of the hacks are no longer required with BBDB 3.x?  And if
they are, it would be good if BBDB users would file bugs about why the
hacks are needed.  Now that BBDB 3.x is in GNU ELPA BBDB bugs should
actually be fixable (unlike 2.x bugs for which there is no choice but to
hack workarounds).

Thomas

Re: Using bbdb 2.35 in devel emacs-27

[Harry Putnam]

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

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>>>> "Harry" == Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>    > Summary:
>    > Hoping someone will be able to say if bbdb 2.35 will work or mostly
>    > work using devel emacs-27.
>
> It does! I still stick to it, since vs 3 broke, deliberately I must say,
> backward compatibility. Since I have a lot of bbdb hacks I must rewrite
> them, which I still have not find the time to do.
>

Uwe, what is that you have posted?

Here, upon opening your message emacs displays the raw headers
followed by a pile of raw base 64 encoding using

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| >>> "Harry" == Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
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|    > Summary:
|    > Hoping someone will be able to say if bbdb 2.35 will work or mostly
|    > work using devel emacs-27.
| 
| It does! I still stick to it, since vs 3 broke, deliberately I must say,
| backward compatibility. Since I have a lot of bbdb hacks I must rewrite
| them, which I still have not find the time to do.
| 
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Re: Using bbdb 2.35 in devel emacs-27

[Uwe Brauer]

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   > Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

   > Uwe, what is that you have posted?

   > Here, upon opening your message emacs displays the raw headers
   > followed by a pile of raw base 64 encoding using

   > [Emacs version:
   > GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit,
   >    Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2017-09-28 ]

My apologies! That looks like the beginning of a emacs-report-bug
message, no idea how that happened. Sorry.

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Re: Using bbdb 2.35 in devel emacs-27

[Uwe Brauer]

   > Uwe, what is that you have posted?

   > Here, upon opening your message emacs displays the raw headers
   > followed by a pile of raw base 64 encoding using

   > [Emacs version:
   > GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit,
   >    Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2017-09-28 ]

My apologies! That looks like the beginning of a emacs-report-bug
message, no idea how that happened. Sorry.