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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Subject: Re: Is it normal for 'Org Cycle Hook' to be "CHANGED outside
 Customize" by '(require 'org-inlinetask)'
Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 13:01:18 +0200
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To: Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr
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Hello,

Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:

> Hello -- 
>
> I run:
>
>   emacs -Q -l mini-init.el
>
> with mini-init.el being 
>
>   (add-to-list 'load-path "/home/cochard/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20180521/")
>   (require 'org-inlinetask)
>
> Then I do 'M-x customize-group <RET> org <RET>', then search for
> 'cycle', go to 'Org Cycle Hook', and see:
>
>   Hide Org Cycle Hook:
>   INS DEL org-inlinetask-hide-tasks
>   INS DEL org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees
>   INS DEL org-cycle-hide-drawers
>   INS DEL org-cycle-show-empty-lines
>   INS DEL org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change
>   INS
>       State : CHANGED outside Customize. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> By comparing with the same test but without the (require
> 'org-inlinetask) instruction in the mini-init.el file, I infer
> (correctly I hope) that, somehow, org-inlinetask has modified 'Org
> Cycle Hook' by introducing org-inlinetask-hide-tasks.
>
> In retrospect, this makes some sense, but it was /very/ painful for me
> to track.  For me, a customization was something explicitly changed by
> the user, not implicitly with a 'require', so, when wandering inside
> the customize group and noticing this variable "CHANGED outside
> Customize", I wanted to find where I could have changed it so as to
> make my .emacs cleaner...
>
> So I repeat the question: is it normal that '(require
> 'org-inlinetask)' changes 'Org Cycle Hook'.

This is not optimal, but it does the job.

Anyway, inlinetasks integration is currently under discussion. So this
may change in the future.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou