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[64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.2); Wed, 08 May 2019 11:47:07 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Bubble-Oafish: 2a6881f3076668f9_1557316027737_2684595740 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1557316027737:2430731946 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1557316027737 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a56.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a56.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE856800A5; Wed, 8 May 2019 04:47:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=jEIXHYasACa7SzLy4bPRYbo4o2U=; b=NIDCXzqzqkT3f aK9YGOei22dxI2qQTgt4a8ShWpaNaUBKfBi5rwSxTh6e3oEAFEJIQyHge3rBdZ6w cjoJttIHd7Qezsa9t92w8/PZlqC80z4ia6XDwviD4WA1/wZaU9FWTZpsW1JQBNCd Eh+yXsOZzU6Tws7zCDDOMw0lvw5Xvw= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-9-155.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.9.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a56.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF2BC800B3; Wed, 8 May 2019 04:47:00 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a56 X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -50 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduuddrkeefgdegfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenufgrugcufihorhgushculdehtddmnecujfgurhephffvufhffffkgggtsehttdertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpejnnjjnucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddugedrgedurdelrdduheehnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddugedrgedurdelrdduheehpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepfeehheelieesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrghenucevlhhu shhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:158934 Archived-At: All I know is I am using emacs 26.1. The first C-h l "wastes" half the *Help* buffer with blank lines. Upon a second C-h l, the "\n[back]" appears, but still there is plenty of wasteful blank lines below it. I think there shouldn't be any blank lines following the "\n[back]", unless we just started emacs and there isn't much to report. I think this should be the default behavior and users shouldn't need to set some variable (that is not even mentioned on C-h k C-h l) to "some value over 100" to achieve it.