From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:24:37 +0800 Message-ID: <87eesdbgmi.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87h7xe79l7.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xdbne4.fsf@yahoo.com> <87lfmput2r.fsf@pm.me> <878siorvl7.fsf@yahoo.com> <878simrj5b.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="55797"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: ndame@protonmail.com, Richard Stallman , Theodor Thornhill , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 07:29:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRqtk-000EQP-W2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 07:29:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50054 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRqtk-0007V7-0Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 01:29:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50234) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRqrN-0006YJ-7q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 01:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRqpQ-0000wu-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 01:26:44 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic315-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.190.148]:33189) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRqpQ-0000no-5K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 01:24:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1587705881; bh=Qg2tgfIeMVypx1cULbkIySK+MCWWdok9ZWaujOfBdTw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=kB+JpsHDONQS7N5MeJM+/ake8yDy4N9A0oq9+m3+YVlALwTo5jukQfgCKek5yTZoZTnsDpSWbs+VWo8+Go/5oYgxp8CP5HgRKPZqYIN92NqU3VwXWCVk/NZ185/hl4h1C0DF0FFtWMT0rK9O9eKScGTjsAjn3wNuOTFlp7fUqS2t2vUN9244jjbuSwBFG3Gx4grVLump5vo1ebiuL/aAr8ipd9Gr7D1ukFGECaNCPmtkRWH1eolGXMO4a40Aj7/MA8JM5jOooIM5agMN4X5H1eXQqBL0oDsJRmFTL1uQKQoUdNtjlkPjpva87aCfyuMMnmnWpGg1okCnV07AR1+e3A== X-YMail-OSG: K1nT4X0VM1nanYBuQXd4K9JLS.FR2GRpABKUHz1GRMibu05UHAE7NuWnwYmpa3F YBTiosSZBcskueQ6AnMRk6bSUZiKvF5NR9DjQ0T7Jee71e1tD5k_A5RXPZvXDYA__RpCQ2Qu4nZT jnHed.Hp_ZI8pnHEsc_3cul0v0znKg1vKHPMFubR3.gW68dLuEbj89aMirIUDdYMXbTsc5r.GGVs 88WtkTrbItFDTLuW1F3mpSh5VXunMtEpHgmxrWVE7hd3rR1WKGYos0c_HcOdVOHvTMiXE.sjxT4p v4.QLQSgVh4HO3SyZy4riu2h9pFRP_99JL9w7cJUDvfeCKRjAi6nwm4oXcFHaczGpByvnfE__cQd T6cHiB1MqvFW9jkrQjnW5OcwGdmV6di2KLWOwfIclqSTHWImIZpnsOWRxhCl2VaMsElWOXC87Und 0F4N377TdFhv0CdmfBBxduwEz.MaEApjh05o1VKOGXEXrGYWHsVmFYY0i9HmMRFSB9nTZcmvtG.Q 9EMVFc7MnRZnaGA0hYbekNtiOBGOTGUZ4a791Xzkmh6zJUbILmTNFs_M7dPYzN_8sgW0.1EqPZnZ koeU6TY_ECKGL9D.SbVXHv_tjCmC._3sGLsq.ZFgw89MAPPsSyqfeEj2Mpd0td8dDo5EOQysX1qo Qg0hpE.OkWtirurrNPqHnwuxdvAgfJtV9RflXx6ZyFs12TBnGav8jrsrCTl3MmZwSBwACM6AsAhx 4rllb7bBELtZVNJYiMHTlIYwURX0jocY_FQzImEAMoKFj8B.Us1FbAQ0Mr89kIj.WcsnG5EKW.sC v93qjCsN6SdiYhYfKkC11PmV5qMW8qjI6uR5SNUXv_ Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic315.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:24:41 +0000 Original-Received: by smtp423.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 2e6507b0b8be4c0c4481a8b8ed400d0d; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:24:39 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:55:34 -0400") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.15776 hermes Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.6) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.190.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic315-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/24 00:43:20 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 X-Received-From: 66.163.190.148 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247664 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Even for packages, e.g. `gnu-elpa` will suggest you install the > `company` package when you call `company-mode` but it won't make > a suggestion to enable `company-mode`. Hmm, I suppose I misunderstood your message then. Thanks for clearing it up.