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[109.13.143.200]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t67sm15429510wmg.40.2020.04.27.00.39.37 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 27 Apr 2020 00:39:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:09:17 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::329; envelope-from=kevin.legouguec@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x329.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: [-] PROGRAM ABORT : Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::329 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247893 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> - I don't think I will ever manage to remember any of the keybindings >> for the outline-(show|hide)-=E2=80=A6 functions, > > For this reason I implemented `reveal-mode` ;-) Oh, that's nifty! A shame that point must be on the ellipsis to trigger revealing though; in the specific case of outline-mode, it might make sense to start revealing when point moves to a heading (maybe only after invoking commands such as outline-(previous|next)-visible-heading, so that moving with C-n/C-p does not become jerky). As things stand though it does improve the reading experience already (using e.g. forward-sentence to move through NEWS entries).