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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248861 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> The problem with your approach is that it means calling `start-process` >>> from within a Tramp directory could launch a process with INSIDE_EMACS >>> that contains ",tramp" even tho the process is running locally. >> >> No, Tramp adds the following code snippet to inside-emacs-functions: >> >> (when (file-remote-p default-directory) "tramp:2.5.0-pre")) >> >> The substring about Tramp appears only when it is needed. > > No: `start-process` doesn't look at `default-directory` so the above > code snippet will add ",tramp" when the default-directory is remote, but > the process will still be launched locally. You're right. >> This gives me another idea: Tramp could adapt INSIDE_EMACS as provided >> by the packages via process-environment. Hmm, so simple - I should have >> thought about earlier. > > Isn't that what my suggestion does? Likely. Meanwhile, I've pushed a respective change to master. > Stefan Best regards, Michael.