From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 16:15:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87eerkvucu.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878silajdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tv18pyh4.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83zhaih0oz.fsf@gnu.org> <83pnbegsvm.fsf@gnu.org> <83imh5hby1.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8qxjpka.fsf@mbork.pl> <83h7wpfgcu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="13710"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 27.0.50 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 16 16:16:30 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZxc4-0003Oh-9J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 May 2020 16:16:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42388 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZxc3-0002sY-BZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 May 2020 10:16:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58222) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZxbW-0002SQ-O9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 May 2020 10:15:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]:59206) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZxbV-00022q-Vh; Sat, 16 May 2020 10:15:54 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9F3E66A3; Sat, 16 May 2020 16:15:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3tRNAYfg8pRs; Sat, 16 May 2020 16:15:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (jeden09-dwa27.echostar.pl [213.156.109.227]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 620EDE658A; Sat, 16 May 2020 16:15:46 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <83h7wpfgcu.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=195.110.48.8; envelope-from=mbork@mbork.pl; helo=mail.mojserwer.eu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/16 10:05:02 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250496 Archived-At: On 2020-05-09, at 14:22, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Marcin Borkowski >> Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 13:49:54 +0200 >>=20 >> On 2020-05-09, at 11:48, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wr= ote: >>=20 >> > Finally, above practical aspects, assigning copyright is declaring >> > support for an idea larger than the FSF itself. It's a political >> > declaration. >>=20 >> Could someone officially confirm or deny the above paragraph? > > I can. And also you can (as can anyone who has ever signed those > papers). You have the contract in your hands, you received it after > signing your copy. There's nothing in copyright assignment except > what's written in that contract. Since you've signed it, I take it > that you read it and agreed with what it says. There's nothing there > about any declaration. Simply re-read the text you signed to realize > that. Well, this is so simple only in theory. If anyone could just read and be sure that he understand a legal document, there would be (almost) no need for lawyers, no? I did read it, and I specifically paid attention to whether it contains things Jo=C3=A3o talked about, and did not find them. But that dos not mean that I was not mistaken. Thanks, --=20 Marcin Borkowski http://mbork.pl