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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253975 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Daniel Brooks >> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 11:11:19 -0700 >> >> If you'd like inspiration, Firefox does a pretty decent job at this; >> just visit about:buildconfig to see. > > We have system-configuration-features, which shows the equivalent > info. And system-configuration-options, though as far as I know there's no git commit hash. > But this isn't Phillip's problem: the problem here is that the Windows > build of Emacs tries to load the optional libraries when they are > first required, and if the load fails, the corresponding feature will > behave as not available, even though Emacs was built to support that > feature. That is a fun wrinkle, and I hadn't understood it. Sounds like his report will be more like Firefox's about:support than about:buildconfig. db48x