From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Omar Polo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What is the point of binding C-m to RET, C-i to TAB etc on a GUI frame? Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:12:38 +0100 Message-ID: <87eej7h7ix.fsf@omarpolo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2887"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: novim , novim Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 30 12:13:28 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kuZQ0-0000er-A6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:13:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42532 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuZPz-0003Fu-CX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 06:13:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43966) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuZPP-0003FS-6H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 06:12:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.omarpolo.com ([144.91.116.244]:52665) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuZPM-00062Q-S2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 06:12:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=omarpolo.com; s=20200327; t=1609326759; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=qt/QmQtQAu4VzEFcQ8h0DWZZQeOliXfiLn0fMfXIef8=; b=uVtcpdBBqr64bgHfLbQzsvFU0hjXOq8uWpztOnP+XlshPcrFdixskOmN4fkPhfd0JQbDl9 7hkscciQ0bLTnpF5owWI1eU4r7lQe+oLaYwAKjQsiy8nQvSoRDZior/Rd5n6B91Vxq//X1 IZVDkRNIVnMymZIQkxl3iydMU940WIc= Original-Received: from localhost (host-80-116-112-105.pool80116.interbusiness.it [80.116.112.105]) by mail.omarpolo.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 7ebaa8ab (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:12:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from venera (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e88452bc; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:12:38 +0100 (CET) In-reply-to: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=144.91.116.244; envelope-from=op@omarpolo.com; helo=mail.omarpolo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:126914 Archived-At: novim via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor writes: > AFAIK, it is needed only in terminals, but it has not purpose on GUI. I don't think there are many people who, for example, press C-m instead of RET. > > Wouldn't it make more sense to define these in input-decode-map only if emacs runs in a terminal and on GUI letting the user freely rebind them? I don't think I ever used C-m, but I do sometime use C-i instead of TAB. Many window manager and desktop environment binds alt-tab, the same default binding for completion-at-point. I suppose there are people who use M-C-i instead of "alt-tab" at least for that. (Also, even if you have tab-always-indent set to 'complete, you may still need M-C-i for instance in yasnippet, given how it hijacks TAB) my two cents P.S.: it would be cool to have a setting to explicitly say "I don't care about tty-compatible keybindings". But, OTOH, I've just discovered input-decode-map thanks to this thread so I may play with it.