From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [elpa] main 8f4cb59: * elpa-packages (counsel, ivy, swiper): Auto-sync. Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 19:25:57 +0000 Message-ID: <87eegl7are.fsf@tcd.ie> References: <20210225102521.11653.64611@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210225102523.7CEF420B28@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87h7m0z07r.fsf@tcd.ie> <87mtvsundg.fsf@tcd.ie> <875z20m0oa.fsf@tcd.ie> <87eegn18rr.fsf@tcd.ie> <87im5x8vil.fsf@tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34946"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Oleh Krehel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 11 20:35:01 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lKR5I-0008tS-VM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 20:35:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41962 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKR5F-0008E9-Aw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:34:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43208) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKQwf-0000T4-C9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:26:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x331.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::331]:43548) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKQwc-0001NP-Eg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 14:26:04 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x331.google.com with SMTP id u5-20020a7bcb050000b029010e9316b9d5so10681356wmj.2 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 11:26:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tcd.ie; s=google21; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=tnGFnpDXxkc8n7iVhyLRqaFpc0f+gC6YEIw7ERKKl3I=; b=Ia1nNGFdFOAZt1xqdUVU2SgJce5P8CCIKQGg1tOHchAhnWIB+8mM97yphz0BSZYB6U Jj2+S+Dt21jzrS25+8l3C1BFchtAVG3111gdqvuZSyJ/3SLJq9Gs6eami8ryKKAcnhGV T1FAL6F5KnHggWhsNSrnxrzWGhUOOsk2PI9YLrpnru6EBo0phdwJRMvqT+7+gS9XRi9h zsWaSp8dr/5pEbWyUegqHNLJNAFkC6Q2sYvwSfUsEnNWSPBYdl4yNQrSLjqcMqoTGTej fRWyJ3BZfFFONiBWKrkxVxYFt8+J7aRQBjnhxLaX+tGWlAKMMkL4qj8zcVhTr7ihaVlT 7pXA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=tnGFnpDXxkc8n7iVhyLRqaFpc0f+gC6YEIw7ERKKl3I=; b=D5bTqF+A1mLIpM4uVNUsxIxOjWK1kGHOw4eKWIU1P2FWxgKfSdTCDx3OVF+ui5TYEh onfGjmrCsQUsJNSYA723mtT59pxsb6eDtzpOQp4ga6eA3ITxPIfVYBGQDXbbxaKB/x1L ge1D/41z4sAG9xPktd9WwGdi7+crWn36dBUM/E6ePwQujmBQ1C819a2ndF1LWdbTDOpe NefOm6QFiVkzxXFsLSg/i54nEegX8b+XpmcplAIYx5Hj3MNY63F3tdpmKbfzaPFSvHfQ U5SO2KEzzA5O3FFxDsJBqcCBd/HZ1QqmR/t2r22BF6ikJHFH14meae9M6/qgXsv3HCd8 9lKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530PWEESpTYcG30JWS+kLRb7UkD5X0ENZhfnOfiKscs6TbTJ57tn v96/ecnF6NUxK4sF5BMlSlym4w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw5vR62CTP/dVZguAJQYyqAKQyTjv5M3uHLBMJIZ/s5S7rM2WAtU9XEvEQKCbny7d4j6SOr0w== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:21ca:: with SMTP id x10mr9795791wmj.48.1615490760354; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 11:26:00 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([2a02:8084:20e2:c380:f410:82e8:3a21:eedf]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i4sm4726254wmq.12.2021.03.11.11.25.59 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 11 Mar 2021 11:25:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 11 Mar 2021 12:34:18 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::331; envelope-from=contovob@tcd.ie; helo=mail-wm1-x331.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266354 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> The packages ivy-avy and ivy-hydra are considered optional integrations >> with the separate packages avy and hydra, respectively, so they seem >> like the best candidates for splitting into separate packages (or >> merging with the avy and hydra packages, I think). > > `ivy-hydra` seems to be "extra `ivy` functionality, using a hydra", > rather than "`ivy` support for hydras", so I don't think it belongs with > `hydra.el`. > > OTOH, I think it should be included into `ivy`. IIUC this is currently > not done because it would require adding `hydra` as a dependency to > `ivy`, but my counter argument would be that the better option is to add > to `hydra` a new *function* to replace/complement the `defhydra` > *macro*, so that `ivy-hydra.el` can be included into `ivy` (and compiled > correctly) without needing to add a dependency on `hydra`. Right. > For `ivy-avy` I think the argument is almost the same, except I don't > see any reason why it isn't done yet (there doesn't seem to be any need > for `avy` to be around to compile correctly `ivy-avy`). > > So, let's start with this: Could we merge `ivy-avy` into `ivy`? That's where it was until last year: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/commit/?id=6a576cba564ab8860142f9ec343b13ec89cc2440 Thanks, -- Basil