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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269181 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Please don't move the Text Properties menu to Enriched -- it has > nothing special to do with Enriched mode (although users of Enriched > mode are supposed to use this menu). It is a separate feature that > can be used independently of Enriched mode. Sorry; didn't see this until after I moved it. But I think it makes a lot more sense in the Text menu than in the Edit menu. (Except for the few items that seem to have nothing to do with text property editing, like "Display Faces" and "Display Colors", which should perhaps be moved somewhere else. > It is, of course, okay to disable/remove it when facemenu isn't > loaded, provided that loading facemenu enables/adds it back to the > Edit menu. I think having it automatically in the Text menu (with enriched mode) is more helpful than not having it at all in the menu bar -- unless the user loads facemenu.el. But I have no strong opinions here -- feel free to move this around as you wish. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no