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Sun, 1 Aug 2021 19:13:49 +0200 (CEST) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <83y29lm9sq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 01 Aug 2021 19:03:49 +0300") DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=laposte.net; s=lpn-wlmd; t=1627838031; bh=oGUXYQV2cJeuNbgyH73Dl7uQ84kyiJmBToCvho7BfHM=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uKCHvB76CPrY7kxp5NIBkrq2srJDzLMAmGLOaoP0u7X+oyjrYVU618jA3hk1DqDFh2Y3ZuwUAtWy0ZmlKDCpt8SLhwpK/v2jSOm3cOn7VZJD2JnOy/5NKxF53gchgcZyHiR0guwrFsfe1sp9dXyhvfIq6ZbTGXufs/HzevLsRdUK4iH2ulWhojM6z7ilnaZGnsmTX3vBYFZWIgOlbGwnycsb3RoWHcGfXqenV3c939O0XzlQ7MWtg+qMfRnmpcmrzkdHw8rMfPv/s9pPJPBqSO5Hb2LESOD/kuypP7zZhxFu1ObGzToPG28rOXI7oeKzyTIq/MG8fQ9X7M7I8RBdPA==; Received-SPF: pass client-ip=160.92.124.99; envelope-from=ke.vigouroux@laposte.net; helo=smtp-outgoing-1701.laposte.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132289 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 17:54:09 +0200 >> From: Kevin Vigouroux via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor >> >> In this case, I would recommend you to take a look at the Elisp manual. >> See [[info:elisp#Output Functions]]. >> >> It may sound silly but how can the beginner know everything? By >> guessing, of course: good luck! > > The ELisp manual is not for the beginners; we have the Introduction to > Programming in Emacs Lisp for that. The ELisp manual is the reference > manual for the Emacs Lisp language and its use for extending Emacs. > > It's a matter of perspective. Personally, I couldn't continue reading the Emacs manual because I couldn't understand the numerous references to Elisp. And the tutorial I did not adhere to, and believe it or not, the Emacs Lisp reference manual finally did the trick. -- Best regards, Kevin Vigouroux