From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Package cl is deprecated Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2021 01:58:52 +0200 Message-ID: <87eebclnsz.fsf@web.de> References: <83y29qs31w.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24609"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:+11pz6I+kRRPgsZG30yUFuHOHzw= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 02 01:59:28 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mALMe-0006FB-1x for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 01:59:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33694 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mALMc-0002nF-2S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 19:59:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38326) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mALMH-0002mk-Le for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 19:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:41030) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mALMF-0006Q7-C7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 19:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mALMD-0005iN-B9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 01:59:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.248, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_C=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132294 Archived-At: Hongyi Zhao writes: > But, BTW, I haven't done any configuration for gnus [1], but instead, > I noticed the following `custom-set-variables' setting in my > `~/.emacs.d/init.el': > > '(send-mail-function 'mailclient-send-it) > > If I want to use gnus to do the job through my Gmail account, what > adjustments should I make? If you don't get satisfying answers here, emacs.gnus.user and emacs.gnus.general are Gnus specific groups to ask. I am using Gnus. M-x emacs-bug-report still doesn't start Gnus, I get a buffer in message-mode instead. You get the same when starting to compose a new message from within Gnus. You might want to start with one of the tasks (1) sending Email from Emacs and (2) reading Email and News using Gnus. For sending mail, AFAIR you need a sendmail program installed (or did this change...? I don't reacall). I installed esmtp since it's easy to configure it. I have a ~/.authinfo.gpg with servers, usernames and passwords (including the smtp-Server I use for sending mails), and, I guess, that's already all I config needed outside Emacs. Then some basic setup like (setq-default send-mail-function #'smtpmail-send-it mail-user-agent 'gnus-user-agent user-mail-address ... ) You will want to store Email addresses somewhere, there are multiple solutions for that (EBDB, BBDB, Org, probably more). For basic stuff, i.e. unless you want to use Gnus more or less as your one and only mail reader, you can also choose a more lightweight approach inside Emacs, instead of Gnus. If you do want to use Gnus, there is some more setup involved, but it is not harder to setup than other mail readers if you are used to Emacs. There is a cool gnus-mock called package for testing purposes available in Gnu Elpa that always starts with the same basic but functional setup, if you just want to try out how it looks like, and try out first settings. Gnus then has its own `gnus-init-file', that's where your Gnus specific settings would go. Some variables you probably want to set: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (setq-default mail-sources '((file :path "/var/mail/my-user-name")) ;"system" mail gnus-message-archive-method ;where stuff is saved '(nnml "archive" (nnml-directory "~/Mail/archive/") (nnml-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active") (nnml-newsgroups-file "~/Mail/archive/newsgroups")) gnus-message-archive-group "sent" ;your sent mails go there mail-archive-file-name nil ;have forgotten why I have this gnus-article-save-directory (expand-file-name "~/Mail/archive/read/") nntp-authinfo-file (expand-file-name "~/.authinfo.gpg"); see above message-directory (expand-file-name "~/Mail/") epa-file-cache-passphrase-for-symmetric-encryption t gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnimap "Michael_Heerdegen@web.de" (nnimap-address "imap.web.de")) (nntp "Gmane" (nntp-address "news.gmane.io")) (nntp "news.gnus.org")) gnus-select-method (car gnus-secondary-select-methods) gnus-default-article-saver #'gnus-summary-save-in-folder gnus-blocked-images #'gnus-block-private-groups) #+end_src Could be that there are some redundancies, and you want to use your own Email addresses (I guess). That's the answer to the question what you would have to do. There are probably lots of good "How to get started" manuals out there, and the Gnus manual itself is written in a nice and funny way, don't hesitate to read at length. Michael.