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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282532 Archived-At: Hello, On Mon 20 Dec 2021 at 12:09PM +01, Robert Pluim wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:35:20 +0800, Po Lu said: > > Po> I think only a small percentage of Emacs users track master. Most of us > Po> probably wait for the pretests to come out before complaining about this > Po> or that. > > Emacs *users* yes. I expected packagers to live a bit closer to the > bleeding edge. The view from the Debian Emacs team is that I think I'm the only one tracking master out of four or five of us, and I'm not the one with primary responsibility for packaging Emacs itself. -- Sean Whitton