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From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>, 46351@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#46351: 28.0.50; Add convenient way to bypass Eshell's own pipelining
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 15:45:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ee601ey0.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czlkbxnh.fsf@gmx.de>

Hello Michael,

On Sat 25 Dec 2021 at 02:51PM +01, Michael Albinus wrote:

> Yep, the eshell history is there. However, it looks a little bit weird,
> when I have applied '|| cat .emacs | grep a'. The history shows me
> 'eshell-shell-command "cat .emacs | grep a"' instead. I understand
> what's meant, but is this convenient for an occasional eshell user?

Yeah.  Actually, when I prepared the first version of this series, the
unexpanded version got stored in the history, so I think something has
changed about Eshell history recording in the past year.

> Thinking more about, perhaps we could solve it a little bit
> differently. Eshell knows how to invoke external commands explicitly, by
> prefixing the command with a star like '*ls'. What if we do it the same
> with pipes? That means, '*|' would mean to call an external pipe. So my
> command above would be 'cat .emacs *| grep a'. And an external pipe
> shall convert all other commands in that line into external commands as
> well, like '*cat .emacs *| *grep a'.
>
> By this you wouldn't need your restore-unexpanded-input patch any more, yes?

This is an intriguing suggestion.  It would need to be implemented in
`eshell-parse-pipeline, rather than `eshell-expand-input-functions',
because parsing is required to determine which *| are unquoted, etc.  We
also require *> and *< redirections, also in `eshell-parse-pipeline'.

So, I guess when A *| B is parsed, it would be rewritten to a single
call to `shell-file-name' in the way that `eshell-shell-command' does.
I am not sure how feasible it will be to implement that within the
existing structure of `eshell-parse-pipeline', but I can give it a try.

I have one unresolved design question.  A disadvantage of your proposal
compared to mine is that it is much more laborious to convert an
existing pipeline to use the external shell: you have to replace each |
with *| and > with *>, etc., instead of just putting || at the
beginning.

I think it's important that it is easy to switch this feature on and
off, because it is often only after you start figuring out a pipeline
that you realise you ought to bypass Eshell's pipelining.

One option would be to add an entry to `eshell-expand-input-functions'
which converts all | to *| and > to *> when the input begins with ||.
But that is too simple, because you need to parse the input to know
which | to replace ... any ideas?  I don't think it can be done inside
`eshell-parse-command'.

-- 
Sean Whitton





  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-25 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-06 20:06 bug#46351: 28.0.50; Add convenient way to bypass Eshell's own pipelining Sean Whitton
2021-02-07  9:17 ` Michael Albinus
2021-02-07 19:01   ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-08 10:28     ` Michael Albinus
2021-02-08 18:07       ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-10 11:33         ` Michael Albinus
2021-12-24 21:20       ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-25 13:51         ` Michael Albinus
2021-12-25 22:45           ` Sean Whitton [this message]
2021-12-27 14:42             ` Michael Albinus
2021-12-27 18:13               ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-27 18:22                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-27 19:21                   ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-27 19:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-27 19:53                       ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-27 19:37                     ` Michael Albinus
2021-12-27 19:54                       ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-28  8:58                         ` Michael Albinus
2022-01-18  5:19                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-18  9:49                             ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-18 18:27                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-18 14:45                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 18:40                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-18 19:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 23:16                                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-19  7:34                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 20:39                                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-20  6:53                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20 22:16                                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-21  6:54                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-22  0:16                                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-18 18:42                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-19 15:52                             ` Michael Albinus
2022-01-19 20:54                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-20 18:41                                 ` Michael Albinus
2022-01-20 22:17                                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-23 22:39                             ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-24  9:55                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-24 14:18                               ` Michael Albinus
2022-01-24 20:32                                 ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-24 20:44                                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-24 20:48                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-24 21:42                                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-24 21:51                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-24 22:48                                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-24 20:46                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-25  2:39                                     ` Jim Porter
2022-01-25  5:33                                       ` bug#53518: 29.0.50; em-extpipe breaks input of sharp-quoted Lisp symbols Sean Whitton
2022-01-25  8:50                                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-25 12:26                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-25 16:48                                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-26  5:38                                             ` Jim Porter
2022-01-26 13:13                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-25 18:14                                         ` Jim Porter
2022-01-25 20:01                                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-25 20:52                                             ` Jim Porter
2022-01-25 22:38                                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-25  8:54                                       ` bug#46351: 28.0.50; Add convenient way to bypass Eshell's own pipelining Michael Albinus
2022-01-25 18:22                                         ` Jim Porter
2021-12-27 18:26                 ` Michael Albinus

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