From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On Contributing To Emacs Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 11:02:52 +0000 Message-ID: <87ee5ymhsz.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87v8zbp5l7.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25653"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 27 12:03:36 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n1nmx-0006Tu-Ge for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 12:03:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38112 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n1nmv-00039j-Fy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 06:03:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52070) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n1nmM-0002V1-2u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 06:02:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:49355) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n1nmJ-0008ML-V6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 06:02:57 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1A34240028 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 12:02:53 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1640602974; bh=iS1s4OvVs1MN5KzzfQw17+QrDaUL9tsct2cSWurvcaI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=DHTFP29AaplKwsAwqmIoEa/GpENgMKUINoIf2H3PL3C4bDqpKuv3CTsXlXqd7yH01 M1JFDWsLDS5Jf/W9Xg8npUoTgBKyvUdXJs+1oMw8qY7uemHaE3syGqH7LmsJ3IQRgG E4qLq/jnFxwnEVMX2wxjcrprrlF31VHWUIPLVAtKXcACIa46BUG8OXopUQKpdOGIxO dHe++Yz0LDZCxUaY09fsDbX+9+Us2rsiHzjKi1ly51fA1cNISRkDRJTbdLHcmAi+Ei 1nygH5a1wkNlrs4iQr68fOmojbqtpxnXcSFyw1WUQd8KMUreuToBP9uDhLxWeYuwFn CpoaritmgyO0g== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4JMvs92YHYz6tm5; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 12:02:53 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283414 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > I have been thinking implementing something like this, where package.el > > could handle a > > > ;; VC: https://source.com/package.git > > > like header that would indicate where the source code for a package was > > being managed and could be downloaded and prepared (autoload, load-path > > overriding the default package, ...) when requested. > > Could you describe this functionality more concretely, so that people > who don't thoroughly know this field can understand what it would do? I am imagining a command like `package-fetch'. You could give it a package name or a repository URL, and it would clone the contents into ~/.emacs.d/elpa/devel. Package.el would treat this as a special kind of package (next to "installed", "dependency" and "built-in"), hopefully being able to reuse the existing package-loading functionality. To me this would demonstrate a real advantage for the practical software freedom of Emacs users, by having access to both the history of a package and making contributing to Emacs packages more immediate by reducing the maintenance overhead. -- Philip Kaludercic