From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Lumpers & Splitter Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 02:01:10 +0100 Message-ID: <87ee3pyvft.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <83tucvz53x.fsf@gnu.org> <875ypaebhr.fsf@zoho.eu> <878ru6crrk.fsf@zoho.eu> <87ilt8ybl0.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29335"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:N1WQgSBUkdTpM0HpeZMfd4djf/s= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 27 02:01:47 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nO7wZ-0007T7-Lx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 02:01:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46508 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nO7wY-00022Y-PQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2022 20:01:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46958) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nO7w9-000224-RR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2022 20:01:21 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:44698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nO7w6-00081g-Hh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2022 20:01:20 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nO7w4-0006uI-Mw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 02:01:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136221 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: >> Jean Louis wrote: >> >> > I can think of many examples where lumpers may be >> > practically right, it does not mean they can't see >> > differences. >> >> The method, as quoted from the THE LUMPER MANIFESTO (1852), >> is: >> >> 1) See differences and similarities. >> >> 2) Decide what of those are the _important_ ones. >> >> > Now I think, the more one thinks as a splitter, one cannot >> > designate lumpers into lumpers. > > That is what I meant. I can't? These 1) See differences and similarities. 2) Decide what of those are the _important_ ones. are actually the same! 1) Seeing and deciding what is important, that's concurrent processes with a complex bidirectional interface So that's the new lumper definition! And the previous one it is the new splitter definition ... -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal