* [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations @ 2022-07-01 9:30 András Simonyi 2022-07-02 4:38 ` Ihor Radchenko 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: András Simonyi @ 2022-07-01 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 226 bytes --] Dear All, the attached patch adds support for nocite citations in the csl org-cite export processor, including support for using the special key "*" to include all entries in the bibliography. best wishes, András [-- Attachment #2: 0001-oc-csl.el-Add-support-for-nocite-citations.patch --] [-- Type: text/x-patch, Size: 5665 bytes --] From 3e6514d2e2f4fa68462a02578880b126e3116739 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Andr=C3=A1s=20Simonyi?= <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 10:24:17 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] oc-csl.el: Add support for nocite citations * lisp/oc-csl.el (org-cite-csl--rendered-citations): Collect nocite style citations in a separate list as required by the citeproc-el API. Set the output of all nocite citations to the empty string. (org-cite-csl--nocite-p): New helper predicate for checking whether a citation is a nocite. --- etc/ORG-NEWS | 5 +++++ lisp/oc-csl.el | 53 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------- 2 files changed, 43 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/ORG-NEWS b/etc/ORG-NEWS index 902d70256..0f7a9e825 100644 --- a/etc/ORG-NEWS +++ b/etc/ORG-NEWS @@ -239,7 +239,12 @@ This behaviour can be changed by supplying a =:align= parameter. The tabbing environment can be useful when generating simple tables which can be span multiple pages and when table cells are allowed to overflow. +*** Support for nocite citations in the csl export processor +The csl citation export processor now supports `nocite' style +citations that add items to the printed bibliography without visible +references in the text. Using the key `*' in a nocite citation +includes all available items in the printed bibliography. ** New functions and changes in function arguments *** New function ~org-element-cache-map~ for quick mapping across Org elements diff --git a/lisp/oc-csl.el b/lisp/oc-csl.el index eb67092dd..05e4fa976 100644 --- a/lisp/oc-csl.el +++ b/lisp/oc-csl.el @@ -59,9 +59,13 @@ ;; - author (a), including bare (b), caps (c), bare-caps (bc), full (f), ;; caps-full (cf), and bare-caps-full (bcf) variants, ;; - noauthor (na), including bare (b), caps (c) and bare-caps (bc) variants, +;; - nocite (n), ;; - year (y), including a bare (b) variant, ;; - text (t). including caps (c), full (f), and caps-full (cf) variants, ;; - default style, including bare (b), caps (c) and bare-caps (bc) variants. +;; +;; Using "*" as a key in a nocite citation includes all available items in +;; the printed bibliography. ;; CSL styles recognize "locator" in citation references' suffix. For example, ;; in the citation @@ -103,6 +107,7 @@ (declare-function citeproc-create "ext:citeproc") (declare-function citeproc-citation-create "ext:citeproc") (declare-function citeproc-append-citations "ext:citeproc") +(declare-function citeproc-add-uncited "ext:citeproc") (declare-function citeproc-render-citations "ext:citeproc") (declare-function citeproc-render-bib "ext:citeproc") (declare-function citeproc-hash-itemgetter-from-any "ext:citeproc") @@ -296,6 +301,12 @@ INFO is the export state, as a property list." (citeproc-proc-style (org-cite-csl--processor info)))) +(defun org-cite-csl--nocite-p (citation info) + "Non-nil when CITATION object's style is nocite. +INFO is the export state, as a property list." + (when-let ((style (car (org-cite-citation-style citation info)))) + (or (string= style "nocite") (string= style "n")))) + (defun org-cite-csl--create-structure-params (citation info) "Return citeproc structure creation params for CITATION object. STYLE is the citation style, as a string or nil. INFO is the export state, as @@ -535,20 +546,31 @@ INFO is the export state, as a property list. Return an alist (CITATION . OUTPUT) where CITATION object has been rendered as OUTPUT using Citeproc." (or (plist-get info :cite-citeproc-rendered-citations) - (let* ((citations (org-cite-list-citations info)) - (processor (org-cite-csl--processor info)) - (structures - (mapcar (lambda (c) (org-cite-csl--create-structure c info)) - citations))) - (citeproc-append-citations structures processor) - (let* ((rendered - (citeproc-render-citations - processor - (org-cite-csl--output-format info) - (org-cite-csl--no-citelinks-p info))) - (result (seq-mapn #'cons citations rendered))) - (plist-put info :cite-citeproc-rendered-citations result) - result)))) + (let ((citations (org-cite-list-citations info)) + (processor (org-cite-csl--processor info)) + normal-citations nocite-ids) + (dolist (citation citations) + (if (org-cite-csl--nocite-p citation info) + (setq nocite-ids (append (org-cite-get-references citation t) nocite-ids)) + (push citation normal-citations))) + (let ((structures + (mapcar (lambda (c) (org-cite-csl--create-structure c info)) + (nreverse normal-citations)))) + (citeproc-append-citations structures processor)) + (when nocite-ids + (citeproc-add-uncited nocite-ids processor)) + (let (result + (rendered (citeproc-render-citations + processor + (org-cite-csl--output-format info) + (org-cite-csl--no-citelinks-p info)))) + (dolist (citation citations) + (push (cons citation + (if (org-cite-csl--nocite-p citation info) "" (pop rendered))) + result)) + (setq result (nreverse result)) + (plist-put info :cite-citeproc-rendered-citations result) + result)))) \f ;;; Export capability @@ -638,7 +660,8 @@ property list." (("noauthor" "na") ("bare" "b") ("caps" "c") ("bare-caps" "bc")) (("year" "y") ("bare" "b")) (("text" "t") ("caps" "c") ("full" "f") ("caps-full" "cf")) - (("nil") ("bare" "b") ("caps" "c") ("bare-caps" "bc")))) + (("nil") ("bare" "b") ("caps" "c") ("bare-caps" "bc")) + (("nocite" "n")))) (provide 'oc-csl) ;;; oc-csl.el ends here -- 2.25.1 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-01 9:30 [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations András Simonyi @ 2022-07-02 4:38 ` Ihor Radchenko 2022-07-02 8:32 ` András Simonyi 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-02 4:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: András Simonyi; +Cc: emacs-orgmode list András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> writes: > the attached patch adds support for nocite citations in the csl > org-cite export processor, including support for using the special key > "*" to include all entries in the bibliography. Thanks! By "*", do you mean something like [cite/n:@*]? If so, will it be correctly fontified as an existing citation? > +*** Support for nocite citations in the csl export processor > > +The csl citation export processor now supports `nocite' style > +citations that add items to the printed bibliography without visible > +references in the text. Using the key `*' in a nocite citation > +includes all available items in the printed bibliography. It would help to provide an example how to use "*" key. Also, I'd prefer if you follow doc/Documentation_Standards.org. Please use Org markup instead of `...' quotes. > +(defun org-cite-csl--nocite-p (citation info) > + "Non-nil when CITATION object's style is nocite. > +INFO is the export state, as a property list." > + (when-let ((style (car (org-cite-citation-style citation info)))) > + (or (string= style "nocite") (string= style "n")))) Why not simply (member (car (org-cite-citation-style citation info)) '("nocite" "n")) ? Best, Ihor ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-02 4:38 ` Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-02 8:32 ` András Simonyi 2022-07-03 11:58 ` Ihor Radchenko 2022-07-04 11:54 ` [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations Ihor Radchenko 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: András Simonyi @ 2022-07-02 8:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: emacs-orgmode list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1474 bytes --] Dear Ihor, thanks a lot for your reply! On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 at 06:37, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote: > By "*", do you mean something like [cite/n:@*]? > If so, will it be correctly fontified as an existing citation? Yes I meant exactly that. As for fontification, this is a very good question! I've checked it now with the built-in "basic" activation processor and it shows the "*" with an "error" face, indicating that it's not a key in the bibliography file(s), which might not be ideal. Nonetheless, this problem is not limited to or introduced by this patch, because the same construct and functionality is also supported by the "biblatex" and "natbib" export processors. Actually, the possibility of using "*" as a key comes simply from a citeproc-el change, not from oc-csl, I just thought that it is obscure enough to merit an explicit mention in the NEWS file. > It would help to provide an example how to use "*" key. > Also, I'd prefer if you follow doc/Documentation_Standards.org. Please > use Org markup instead of `...' quotes. Thanks, I have tried to address your comments in the attached new version of the patch. Note that the quotes around "csl" follow the manual's "Citation handling" chapter. > Why not simply > (member (car (org-cite-citation-style citation info)) '("nocite" "n")) > ? Thanks, that is indeed simpler, I've changed the function's definition accordingly. best wishes, András [-- Attachment #2: 0001-oc-csl.el-Add-support-for-nocite-citations.patch --] [-- Type: text/x-patch, Size: 5698 bytes --] From 7d2c6be97258ecbca4929e302d63b760bec078ad Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Andr=C3=A1s=20Simonyi?= <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 10:24:17 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] oc-csl.el: Add support for nocite citations * lisp/oc-csl.el (org-cite-csl--rendered-citations): Collect nocite style citations in a separate list as required by the citeproc-el API. Set the output of all nocite citations to the empty string. (org-cite-csl--nocite-p): New helper predicate for checking whether a citation is a nocite. --- etc/ORG-NEWS | 11 +++++++++++ lisp/oc-csl.el | 53 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------- 2 files changed, 49 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/ORG-NEWS b/etc/ORG-NEWS index 902d70256..4cda357f1 100644 --- a/etc/ORG-NEWS +++ b/etc/ORG-NEWS @@ -239,7 +239,18 @@ This behaviour can be changed by supplying a =:align= parameter. The tabbing environment can be useful when generating simple tables which can be span multiple pages and when table cells are allowed to overflow. +*** Support for =nocite= citations in the "csl" export processor +The "csl" citation export processor now supports =nocite= style +citations that add items to the printed bibliography without visible +references in the text. Using the key =*= in a nocite citation, for +instance, + +#+begin_src org +[cite/n:@*] +#+end_src + +includes all available items in the printed bibliography. ** New functions and changes in function arguments *** New function ~org-element-cache-map~ for quick mapping across Org elements diff --git a/lisp/oc-csl.el b/lisp/oc-csl.el index eb67092dd..a2bd6653c 100644 --- a/lisp/oc-csl.el +++ b/lisp/oc-csl.el @@ -59,9 +59,13 @@ ;; - author (a), including bare (b), caps (c), bare-caps (bc), full (f), ;; caps-full (cf), and bare-caps-full (bcf) variants, ;; - noauthor (na), including bare (b), caps (c) and bare-caps (bc) variants, +;; - nocite (n), ;; - year (y), including a bare (b) variant, ;; - text (t). including caps (c), full (f), and caps-full (cf) variants, ;; - default style, including bare (b), caps (c) and bare-caps (bc) variants. +;; +;; Using "*" as a key in a nocite citation includes all available items in +;; the printed bibliography. ;; CSL styles recognize "locator" in citation references' suffix. For example, ;; in the citation @@ -103,6 +107,7 @@ (declare-function citeproc-create "ext:citeproc") (declare-function citeproc-citation-create "ext:citeproc") (declare-function citeproc-append-citations "ext:citeproc") +(declare-function citeproc-add-uncited "ext:citeproc") (declare-function citeproc-render-citations "ext:citeproc") (declare-function citeproc-render-bib "ext:citeproc") (declare-function citeproc-hash-itemgetter-from-any "ext:citeproc") @@ -296,6 +301,12 @@ INFO is the export state, as a property list." (citeproc-proc-style (org-cite-csl--processor info)))) +(defun org-cite-csl--nocite-p (citation info) + "Non-nil when CITATION object's style is nocite. +INFO is the export state, as a property list." + (member (car (org-cite-citation-style citation info)) + '("nocite" "n"))) + (defun org-cite-csl--create-structure-params (citation info) "Return citeproc structure creation params for CITATION object. STYLE is the citation style, as a string or nil. INFO is the export state, as @@ -535,20 +546,31 @@ INFO is the export state, as a property list. Return an alist (CITATION . OUTPUT) where CITATION object has been rendered as OUTPUT using Citeproc." (or (plist-get info :cite-citeproc-rendered-citations) - (let* ((citations (org-cite-list-citations info)) - (processor (org-cite-csl--processor info)) - (structures - (mapcar (lambda (c) (org-cite-csl--create-structure c info)) - citations))) - (citeproc-append-citations structures processor) - (let* ((rendered - (citeproc-render-citations - processor - (org-cite-csl--output-format info) - (org-cite-csl--no-citelinks-p info))) - (result (seq-mapn #'cons citations rendered))) - (plist-put info :cite-citeproc-rendered-citations result) - result)))) + (let ((citations (org-cite-list-citations info)) + (processor (org-cite-csl--processor info)) + normal-citations nocite-ids) + (dolist (citation citations) + (if (org-cite-csl--nocite-p citation info) + (setq nocite-ids (append (org-cite-get-references citation t) nocite-ids)) + (push citation normal-citations))) + (let ((structures + (mapcar (lambda (c) (org-cite-csl--create-structure c info)) + (nreverse normal-citations)))) + (citeproc-append-citations structures processor)) + (when nocite-ids + (citeproc-add-uncited nocite-ids processor)) + (let (result + (rendered (citeproc-render-citations + processor + (org-cite-csl--output-format info) + (org-cite-csl--no-citelinks-p info)))) + (dolist (citation citations) + (push (cons citation + (if (org-cite-csl--nocite-p citation info) "" (pop rendered))) + result)) + (setq result (nreverse result)) + (plist-put info :cite-citeproc-rendered-citations result) + result)))) \f ;;; Export capability @@ -638,7 +660,8 @@ property list." (("noauthor" "na") ("bare" "b") ("caps" "c") ("bare-caps" "bc")) (("year" "y") ("bare" "b")) (("text" "t") ("caps" "c") ("full" "f") ("caps-full" "cf")) - (("nil") ("bare" "b") ("caps" "c") ("bare-caps" "bc")))) + (("nil") ("bare" "b") ("caps" "c") ("bare-caps" "bc")) + (("nocite" "n")))) (provide 'oc-csl) ;;; oc-csl.el ends here -- 2.25.1 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-02 8:32 ` András Simonyi @ 2022-07-03 11:58 ` Ihor Radchenko 2022-07-03 12:26 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2022-07-04 11:54 ` [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations Ihor Radchenko 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-03 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: András Simonyi; +Cc: emacs-orgmode list András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> writes: >> By "*", do you mean something like [cite/n:@*]? >> If so, will it be correctly fontified as an existing citation? > > ... As for fontification, this is a very good > question! I've checked it now with the built-in "basic" > activation processor and it shows the "*" with an "error" face, > indicating that it's not a key in the bibliography file(s), which > might not be ideal. Nonetheless, this problem is not limited to or > introduced by this patch, because the same construct and > functionality is also supported by the "biblatex" and "natbib" export > processors. Actually, the possibility of using "*" as a key comes > simply > from a citeproc-el change, not from oc-csl, I just thought that it is > obscure enough to merit an explicit mention in the NEWS file. I do understand that @* syntax is coming from citeproc-el. However, we are talking about changes to Org core. If Org highlights @* with 'error face, some users will be confused. Could you please elaborate about "the same construct and functionality is also supported by the "biblatex" and "natbib" export processors"? I cannot call myself expert in LaTeX, but I've never heard about LaTeX \cite/\nocite commands supporting "*" argument. I cannot find any traces of "*" functionality in oc-bibtelatex/oc-natbib as well. Best, Ihor ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-03 11:58 ` Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-03 12:26 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2022-07-03 12:35 ` Ihor Radchenko 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-07-03 12:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: András Simonyi, emacs-orgmode list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1619 bytes --] Ihor - on *, he is bringing oc-csl in line with the oc-natbib and oc-biblatex processors. On Sun, Jul 3, 2022, 7:57 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote: > András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> writes: > > >> By "*", do you mean something like [cite/n:@*]? > >> If so, will it be correctly fontified as an existing citation? > > > > ... As for fontification, this is a very good > > question! I've checked it now with the built-in "basic" > > activation processor and it shows the "*" with an "error" face, > > indicating that it's not a key in the bibliography file(s), which > > might not be ideal. Nonetheless, this problem is not limited to or > > introduced by this patch, because the same construct and > > functionality is also supported by the "biblatex" and "natbib" export > > processors. Actually, the possibility of using "*" as a key comes > > simply > > from a citeproc-el change, not from oc-csl, I just thought that it is > > obscure enough to merit an explicit mention in the NEWS file. > > I do understand that @* syntax is coming from citeproc-el. However, we > are talking about changes to Org core. If Org highlights @* with 'error > face, some users will be confused. > > Could you please elaborate about "the same construct and functionality > is also supported by the "biblatex" and "natbib" export processors"? > I cannot call myself expert in LaTeX, but I've never heard about LaTeX > \cite/\nocite commands supporting "*" argument. I cannot find any traces > of "*" functionality in oc-bibtelatex/oc-natbib as well. > > Best, > Ihor > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2209 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-03 12:26 ` Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-07-03 12:35 ` Ihor Radchenko 2022-07-03 12:38 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2022-07-03 12:53 ` John Kitchin 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-03 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce D'Arcus; +Cc: András Simonyi, emacs-orgmode list "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes: > Ihor - on *, he is bringing oc-csl in line with the oc-natbib and > oc-biblatex processors. I am sorry, but I still do not understand. AFAIK, \nocite{*} is not a valid LaTeX command. Best, Ihor ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-03 12:35 ` Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-03 12:38 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2022-07-03 12:53 ` John Kitchin 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-07-03 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: András Simonyi, emacs-orgmode list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 431 bytes --] I don't know the internals, I just know it works from org, though I'm not near a computer ATM. On Sun, Jul 3, 2022, 8:34 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote: > "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes: > > > Ihor - on *, he is bringing oc-csl in line with the oc-natbib and > > oc-biblatex processors. > > I am sorry, but I still do not understand. AFAIK, \nocite{*} is not a > valid LaTeX command. > > Best, > Ihor > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 828 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-03 12:35 ` Ihor Radchenko 2022-07-03 12:38 ` Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-07-03 12:53 ` John Kitchin 2022-07-03 13:10 ` [BUG] @* in [cite/nocite:@*] is a valid special LaTeX bibliography key, but it is highlighted using "error" face by oc.el (was: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations) Ihor Radchenko 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: John Kitchin @ 2022-07-03 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: András Simonyi, Bruce D'Arcus, emacs-orgmode list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 986 bytes --] It is a special command. See https://texfaq.org/FAQ-nocitestar It is used to put all entries in a bibtex file in the bibliography. Here is a minimal example Tex file that should list all the entries in mybibliography.bib \documentstyle{article} \begin{document} \nocite{*} \bibliographystyle{unsrt} \bibliography{mybibliography} \end{document} On Sun, Jul 3, 2022 at 8:35 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote: > "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes: > > > Ihor - on *, he is bringing oc-csl in line with the oc-natbib and > > oc-biblatex processors. > > I am sorry, but I still do not understand. AFAIK, \nocite{*} is not a > valid LaTeX command. > > Best, > Ihor > > -- John ----------------------------------- Professor John Kitchin (he/him/his) Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin https://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu https://pointbreezepubs.gumroad.com/ pycse bookstore [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2073 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* [BUG] @* in [cite/nocite:@*] is a valid special LaTeX bibliography key, but it is highlighted using "error" face by oc.el (was: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations) 2022-07-03 12:53 ` John Kitchin @ 2022-07-03 13:10 ` Ihor Radchenko 2022-07-04 6:53 ` András Simonyi 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-03 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: John Kitchin; +Cc: András Simonyi, Bruce D'Arcus, emacs-orgmode list John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > It is a special command. See > > https://texfaq.org/FAQ-nocitestar > > It is used to put all entries in a bibtex file in the bibliography. > > Here is a minimal example Tex file that should list all the entries in > mybibliography.bib > > \documentstyle{article} > \begin{document} > \nocite{*} > \bibliographystyle{unsrt} > \bibliography{mybibliography} > \end{document} Thanks for the clarification! Then, oc-natbib, oc-biblatex, and oc-csl should be modified to provide an alternative activation function that will not highlight @* as non-existing key. Probably, we can even use an alternative "special" key face, not 'org-cite-key. Best, Ihor ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [BUG] @* in [cite/nocite:@*] is a valid special LaTeX bibliography key, but it is highlighted using "error" face by oc.el (was: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations) 2022-07-03 13:10 ` [BUG] @* in [cite/nocite:@*] is a valid special LaTeX bibliography key, but it is highlighted using "error" face by oc.el (was: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations) Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-04 6:53 ` András Simonyi 2022-07-04 12:28 ` Ihor Radchenko 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: András Simonyi @ 2022-07-04 6:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: John Kitchin, Bruce D'Arcus, emacs-orgmode list Dear All, On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 at 15:09, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote: > Then, oc-natbib, oc-biblatex, and oc-csl should be modified to provide > an alternative activation function that will not highlight @* as > non-existing key. > > Probably, we can even use an alternative "special" key face, not > 'org-cite-key. AFAICS, the situation is rather complex: Org (the main branch) currently contains five export processors (basic, bibtex, natbib, biblatex and csl), but only a single activation processor called "basic". Of the five export processors the three LaTeX-based ones already support the "*" key in nocite citations, and the CSL processor could also with my proposed patch, leaving only the "basic" one without this feature. I think that the problem with simply adding one or more new activation processors with different fontification for the "*" key is that Org has no way of knowing (at least for sure) which export processor will be used for a exporting a certain Org buffer, since it can depend on the chosen export backend (see the variable org-cite-export-processors). E.g., org-cite could be set up to use the "natbib" processor for "LaTeX" export and the "basic" processor for any other format. I think that it'd be more in the spirit of the "basic" activation processor to be more permissive and not treat "*" as an error, similarly to citation styles not supported by the "basic" export processor but supported by others. best wishes, András ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [BUG] @* in [cite/nocite:@*] is a valid special LaTeX bibliography key, but it is highlighted using "error" face by oc.el (was: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations) 2022-07-04 6:53 ` András Simonyi @ 2022-07-04 12:28 ` Ihor Radchenko 2022-07-04 12:57 ` András Simonyi 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-04 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: András Simonyi; +Cc: John Kitchin, Bruce D'Arcus, emacs-orgmode list András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> writes: > I think that the problem with simply adding one or more new activation > processors with different fontification for the "*" key is that Org > has no way of knowing (at least for sure) which export processor will > be used for a exporting a certain Org buffer, since it can depend on > the chosen export backend (see the variable > org-cite-export-processors). E.g., org-cite could be set up to use the > "natbib" processor for "LaTeX" export and the "basic" processor for > any other format. I think that it'd be more in the spirit of the > "basic" activation processor to be more permissive and not treat "*" > as an error, similarly to citation styles not supported by the "basic" > export processor but supported by others. I do not agree. If someone sets up natbib for latex export and basic for other formats, "*" will not be correctly exported in those other formats (because basic does not support @* syntax) - something fontification should better highlight for the user. Also, are there any similar non-key constructs in latex in addition to "*"? Best, Ihor ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [BUG] @* in [cite/nocite:@*] is a valid special LaTeX bibliography key, but it is highlighted using "error" face by oc.el (was: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations) 2022-07-04 12:28 ` Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-04 12:57 ` András Simonyi 2022-07-04 13:16 ` Bruce D'Arcus 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: András Simonyi @ 2022-07-04 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: John Kitchin, Bruce D'Arcus, emacs-orgmode list Dear All, On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 14:27, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote: > András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> writes: > I do not agree. > If someone sets up natbib for latex export and basic for other formats, > "*" will not be correctly exported in those other formats (because basic > does not support @* syntax) - something fontification should better > highlight for the user. yes, the basic export processor is, well, basic in certain respects. But then this is the case with more advanced citation styles, e.g. "locators" as well, which is supported by the biblatex export processor and not by "basic"; nonetheless, the "basic" activation processor's fontification doesn't signal "error" if someone uses the "locators" style, in fact it doesn't check whether a used citation style is supported by any of the processors. It seems to me that "*" as a key is sophisticated enough that if we have to make a decision about the default fontification then it is better to err on the side of supposing that a user using it knows what they are doing, Of course, others' mileage may vary, and it'd be very interesting to hear other opinions. best wishes, András > Also, are there any similar non-key constructs in latex in addition to "*"? > > Best, > Ihor ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [BUG] @* in [cite/nocite:@*] is a valid special LaTeX bibliography key, but it is highlighted using "error" face by oc.el (was: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations) 2022-07-04 12:57 ` András Simonyi @ 2022-07-04 13:16 ` Bruce D'Arcus 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-07-04 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: András Simonyi; +Cc: Ihor Radchenko, John Kitchin, emacs-orgmode list On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 8:57 AM András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> wrote: > It seems to me that "*" as a key is sophisticated enough that if we have to make a decision > about the default fontification then it is better to err on the side > of supposing that a user using it knows what they are doing, +1 Bruce ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-02 8:32 ` András Simonyi 2022-07-03 11:58 ` Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-04 11:54 ` Ihor Radchenko 2022-07-05 19:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-04 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: András Simonyi; +Cc: emacs-orgmode list András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> writes: > Thanks, I have tried to address your comments in the attached new > version of the patch. > Note that the quotes around "csl" follow the manual's "Citation > handling" chapter. Since the fontification part appears to be unrelated to this particular patch, I'd like to ask people who use CSL to test the patch. I do not use CSL myself. I have no further comments on the lisp part. Best, Ihor ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-04 11:54 ` [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-05 19:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2022-07-05 19:28 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2022-07-07 10:46 ` Ihor Radchenko 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-07-05 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: András Simonyi, emacs-orgmode list On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 7:54 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote: > Since the fontification part appears to be unrelated to this particular > patch, I'd like to ask people who use CSL to test the patch. I just tested it, and it works as expected. Except, and I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding some org detail, but this doesn't suppress the global bibliography. Should it? #+bibliography: test.bib #+cite_export: csl [cite/nocite:@*] #+print_bibliography: # Local Variables: # org-cite-global-bibliography: nil # End: Bruce ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-05 19:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-07-05 19:28 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2022-07-05 19:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2022-07-07 10:46 ` Ihor Radchenko 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-07-05 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: András Simonyi, emacs-orgmode list On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 3:17 PM Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 7:54 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Since the fontification part appears to be unrelated to this particular > > patch, I'd like to ask people who use CSL to test the patch. > > I just tested it, and it works as expected. > > Except, and I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding some org detail, but > this doesn't suppress the global bibliography. Should it? Yes, and it does in oc-biblatex. Bruce ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-05 19:28 ` Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-07-05 19:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-07-05 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: András Simonyi, emacs-orgmode list On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 3:28 PM Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote: > > Except, and I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding some org detail, but > > this doesn't suppress the global bibliography. Should it? > > Yes, and it does in oc-biblatex. Sorry for the noise; disregard. It was something with my testing setup. Bruce ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: Add support for nocite citations 2022-07-05 19:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2022-07-05 19:28 ` Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-07-07 10:46 ` Ihor Radchenko 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-07-07 10:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce D'Arcus; +Cc: András Simonyi, emacs-orgmode list "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 7:54 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Since the fontification part appears to be unrelated to this particular >> patch, I'd like to ask people who use CSL to test the patch. > > I just tested it, and it works as expected. Thanks! Applied onto main via b3b17cdb6. Best, Ihor ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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