From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56820: outline-minor-mode replacing the first character with an arrow Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2022 14:46:07 +0200 Message-ID: <87edwnnyi8.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87ilngmaei.fsf@gnus.org> <86wnaojst4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86mtbfdqdj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83ilm3ko51.fsf@gnu.org> <86edwotx6n.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83tu5kii23.fsf@gnu.org> <86mtbcqx5u.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30031"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , yilkalargawworkneh@gmail.com, 56820@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 07 14:47:14 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oVuSY-0007cT-9G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Yes, that was one major reason to add buttons to outline -- to have something that people can hit `RET' on. But it doesn't really work well in editing modes -- it's too disruptive for a minor mode to attempt to do something that works well across all major modes in this way. So for editing modes, I think we have to abandon the convenient "hit `RET' on the button" interaction.