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Fri, 16 Sep 2022 11:48:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mtazy7tv.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 16 Sep 2022 11:41:48 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:dEpDPIGI7nPYif9oGE30KzC9KIU7cGn4aAARkpTngm5FQYUjoKt lQQOxp5UkqehyQ5VX1Iyto7BDfDlz7+wIdKD8v5/HI3IGJvDuY5W85ekeegkxqDin40xADg Cy60V9q6XzSNC1pKB+1FqFLoZ6rhjqxc9Z8OJYA+bzNEfjFxNs6onpmMxTiepmqcwHAxk1G +ciofihDx0iGNQlwNdyxQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:v616uw83TKk=:NzriihI8WJp50LdzmDv74F BS/JqZI4p119H4KMdrsT/fMfA3/2JQnpAEQrIwmO3Hg850MI2ySFAyfe7iFCrH8o6THzHdMPD IgGMB0RYlgQS+wX3V7aLUOv1jFWsOAm6sGV6ocrRTlJTc9Mr2FLuGFJ11kuCqjWWoThaI/Xig 3dmm3e8yVxoFSPsXT8cNMHudQx0WVbTXbcB91QjhN633Ag0sDr2OSqqBu4CgDURbsdULxS6Fx oeTcTz2aGJHTZ/kI97UILQ3KSGkB0igw2mpAb1VFFsr86Kgt060p37R0OXnZ73HKAqy3m/nxk T0rOnaTNO5qGkVPKseFPb02jlvG3zDgKJSiAOMVcaNpiJy2NNReI0p9iYSvTdUqQZcbsJS6SE 7o06Czx1jBrOtbTQwA/6g5DGaOnVavHRpK/Sj27/EIn/rT+8GdYoOPp/+cygndNU+xM1uqbVM DxHZDJ1mTG4oxU/xsTJOPFlG9s9f0SzbH7JBPNNOWZaNcG1Cjxc5VHdMSuofXHzZLBlJ/LLl6 4fE5rIP3odr9/2K/LJYptzun67/zhUWkLSTeKtwQRO7/qRq9TXJH/UYe/hvLgDHNrOq/ioUO4 ++0qO3BNBEcFCvnSaRi4aBYkrrfgoZSYWS3XGD4fes8JQ1edU3ZoqH2+yv0w33wNyFZWFAqy8 pLMMjI2pOaKVS4F1e74bSmShxW7CD0GiPM8SbX8/gKtIAsCvHJSRsy+KVCfVb9R6FidtQ2ROM E8VU4scWv6cVzCHHa3Vcb6TJFEDSihlkFoBPAnDrP8xB4jYT5BbEFeLtOGeomJLDONujkgwX X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:242715 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> `default-directory' should be remote only when there is a definite >> reason for that (IOW, for remote files and directories), >> it should not be inherited by non-file buffers at random. > > It would be a break with how Emacs has worked for decades, so I don't > think that's something we could do in general. > > I'm not even sure we could provide a user option for this -- if we're > not using the normal default directory here, which one should we choose > for `default-directory'? "~/"? "/"? I agree. > If starting calendar while in a Tramp buffer is problematic for you, > then I think the solution is to not do that, I'm afraid. If the problem is reproducible, we shall catch it. Set tramp-verbose to 10. Next morning, when the Tramp problem has appeared, the Tramp debug buffer shall tell us what happened. Please show the buffer. Best regards, Michael.