From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, lux <lx@shellcodes.org>,
comms@dabrev.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Request to backport fix for CVE-2022-45939 to Emacs 28
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 09:32:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edqrpbwb.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ttzougu2.fsf@gmail.com> (Tim Cross's message of "Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:10:58 +1100")
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:10:58 +1100, Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> said:
Tim> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>> From: lux <lx@shellcodes.org>
>>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 13:07:44 +0800
>>>
>>> Hi, I can fix the CVE-2022-45939, this is a patch.
>>
>> We don't need a patch for that, we just need to cherry-pick the
>> related commits from emacs-29.
>>
>> But that is not what the OP requested: he requested that we also
>> produce an Emacs 28.3 release. And that is a much larger job, for
>> which we currently don't have the time or resources.
Tim> While I understand the resourcing issues, I think this is the wrong
Tim> decision. We are in the situation where the current released version of
Tim> Emacs has a known security exploit with a severity classification of
Tim> high (although this assessment seems to be under review) and the
Tim> response seems to be "Sorry, we are too busy trying to get the next
Tim> version released to deal with this". If we were actually close to an
Tim> Emacs 29 release, then perhaps this would be reasonable, but we don't
Tim> even have a release candidate out yet.
The exploit is severe, in the sense that a car with faulty brakes is
dangerous: if you donʼt drive the car, there is no danger.
Uninstalling the emacs version of ctags/etags is enough to mitigate
this.
Tim> Failing to address a high security vulnerability for months is a
Tim> disservice for the emacs user base and likely to be a blight on Emacs'
Tim> reputation and only provides those against free software with free
Tim> ammunition. In addition to the technical aspects of a security
Tim> vulnerability, perception is just as important. While the specific
Tim> technical aspects of this vulnerability would seem to indicate only a
Tim> subset of etags users are actually exposed to this risk, such detail is
Tim> likely to be lost amongst the FUD which tends to accompany security
Tim> issues.
Yes, the FUD issue (and the associated hysteria from corporate IT
departments) is all too true (plus how many people run ctags or etags
as a privileged user?).
We *could* rush out a 28.3 release, I guess, given that thereʼs only
one actual non-doc change on the branch, but then again: how is that
any better than downstream just adding the CVE fix to their builds?
Robert
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <85f35c42-cfe8-44a7-a9c1-307acc5c17d4@Spark>
2023-02-13 18:15 ` Request to backport fix for CVE-2022-45939 to Emacs 28 Troy Hinckley
2023-02-13 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 5:07 ` lux
2023-02-14 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 16:09 ` Troy Hinckley
2023-02-14 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 1:44 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-17 2:35 ` lux
2023-02-14 20:10 ` Tim Cross
2023-02-15 8:32 ` Robert Pluim [this message]
2023-02-18 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-15 12:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 17:50 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-16 20:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 20:41 ` Jim Porter
2023-02-16 20:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 10:26 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-02-17 10:38 ` Robert Pluim
2023-02-17 12:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 14:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-02-17 17:37 ` lux
2023-02-18 6:54 ` lux
2023-02-19 20:33 ` Corwin Brust
2023-02-21 14:54 ` Michael Albinus
2023-02-19 4:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-19 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 8:13 ` Robert Pluim
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