From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:55:13 +0200 Message-ID: <87edk6irwu.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <20230809094655.793FC18A4654@snark.thyrsus.com> <87il9owg0f.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fs4pkkqi.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87v8dk3bis.fsf@localhost> <874jl4l0bq.fsf@dataswamp.org> <871qg7l2yb.fsf@localhost> <87pm3ri7vx.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87r0o7fdh1.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13603"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:8zBkKAcRwzR9UqOa3FYYXF6EsdE= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 14 04:23:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qVNEg-0003Jf-NI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 04:23:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVNEJ-00016x-1V; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:22:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVI7T-0001dV-Bg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 16:55:27 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVI7R-0001tA-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 16:55:27 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qVI7O-0000k9-EV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:55:22 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:22:49 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308693 Archived-At: Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> Do we have a set of benchmarks in Elisp that everyone >> agrees are good, and that can output data easily to show >> the results? Didn't you do that with an ASCII table in >> a previous post? >> >> Maybe I can use that source with minimal modifications to >> get them to run in CL, so we can compare more broadly, but >> also in an agreed-upon way. So it will not be about what >> really matters or what people really use etc, it will only >> be about performing as good as possible on those >> benchmarks, without cheating obviously ;) > > See https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/elisp-benchmarks.html > These are the benchmarks we used during the discussion of > native-comp support. OK, I'm on it! I get back to you all, thanks for the discussion. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal