From: Sebastian Miele <iota@whxvd.name>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>,
65734@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#65734: [BUG] kill-whole-line on folded subtrees [9.6.8 (release_9.6.8-3-g21171d @ /home/w/usr/emacs/0/29/0/lisp/org/)]
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2023 12:27:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edja1di5.fsf__25680.561601051$1694082749$gmane$org@whxvd.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83il8mz3nf.fsf@gnu.org>
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Date: Thu, 2023-09-07 13:19 +0300
>
>> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
>> Cc: iota@whxvd.name, 65734@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2023 10:00:49 +0000
>>
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>> > Then perhaps just a special value for buffer-invisibility-spec, or
>> > some other simple variation of a property Org already uses?
>>
>> We may have a misunderstanding here.
>> In "* Heading text :tag1:tag2:", everything is visible yet Org needs to
>> protect ":tag1:tag2: from being killed by `kill-line', but not from
>> `kill-whole-line'. Moreover, the behaviour also depends on the point
>> position - if point is inside ":tag1:tag2:", we fall back to the default
>> behaviour. And the whole "special" behaviour can also be switched off by
>> flipping `org-special-ctrl-k'.
>>
>> Invisibility has nothing to do with this need.
>
> Isn't it true that invisibility is what causes the user expectations
> in this case to begin with? Then saying that "invisibility has
> nothing to do with this" is not really accurate, is it?
I am not 100 % sure what exactly the misunderstanding is. My first
guess would be: You assume that the tags are invisible, too. But that
is not the case. Because of that the special handling of tags by
`org-kill-line' has nothing to do with visibility.
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2023-09-04 16:30 [BUG] kill-whole-line on folded subtrees [9.6.8 (release_9.6.8-3-g21171d @ /home/w/usr/emacs/0/29/0/lisp/org/)] Sebastian Miele
2023-09-05 10:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 10:29 ` bug#65734: " Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 11:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 11:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 15:25 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-05 15:25 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-05 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 8:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 8:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 13:30 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-06 13:30 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-07 13:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 13:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 16:31 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-10 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-12 13:04 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-12 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 18:53 ` Sebastian Miele
2024-01-06 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-19 14:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-19 14:50 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-22 9:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-22 9:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 19:26 ` bug#65734: 29.1.50; kill-whole-line and visibility of Org subtrees Andrea Corallo
2024-06-22 19:00 ` bug#65734: [BUG] kill-whole-line on folded subtrees [9.6.8 (release_9.6.8-3-g21171d @ /home/w/usr/emacs/0/29/0/lisp/org/)] Stefan Kangas
2024-06-27 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-04 12:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-04 23:20 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-06 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 8:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 8:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 12:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 10:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 10:27 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-07 10:27 ` Sebastian Miele [this message]
2023-09-07 13:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 13:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 10:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 15:04 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-07 10:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 10:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 15:04 ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-05 14:30 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-05 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 15:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 16:02 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-05 16:02 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-05 16:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 16:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07 16:27 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-07 16:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-08 12:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2024-01-08 15:33 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-08 15:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-09 14:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 14:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 16:48 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-09 16:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-09 22:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 22:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 15:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 15:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 16:01 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-09 16:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-09 22:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 3:08 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-10 3:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-10 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-10 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-10 13:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 13:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-10 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 15:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 16:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 16:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 18:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 18:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 12:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 12:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 12:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 12:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 14:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 14:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 21:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-12 21:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-12 21:16 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 21:16 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 15:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 16:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-10 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-10 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 15:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 15:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 16:26 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-09 22:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 15:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
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