From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Instead of pcase Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2023 10:04:30 +0100 Message-ID: <87edg69tup.fsf@linux-m68k.org> References: <87fs169mjj.fsf@posteo.net> <093f11a1-57c2-5e56-d39b-26fef1c67cbb@gutov.dev> <25942.25061.217864.329049@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <87zfzdcz6z.fsf@posteo.net> <763f067b-4ca9-1eba-9f3c-424c38589e9c@gutov.dev> <83fs0navpj.fsf@gnu.org> <838r6ebfhw.fsf@gnu.org> <83zfyu9wdg.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21707"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Yuri Khan , joaotavora@gmail.com, owinebar@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, dmitry@gutov.dev, philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 01 10:05:41 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r8zSv-0005PG-4B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 10:05:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r8zS3-0005kh-7P; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 04:04:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r8zRz-0005kD-C9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 04:04:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r8zRs-0004K5-SI; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 04:04:38 -0500 Original-Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ShRvg46gBz1qsP5; Fri, 1 Dec 2023 10:04:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ShRvg30h8z1qqlW; Fri, 1 Dec 2023 10:04:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavis at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id u8runAZEHAFm; Fri, 1 Dec 2023 10:04:30 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: w3wV7dYscfEDXWaKc+8uNg+gSWFIM7m6eATpuTJGJP07nM6PJauEWWa/sRu/zbtM Original-Received: from tiger.home (aftr-62-216-205-217.dynamic.mnet-online.de [62.216.205.217]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Fri, 1 Dec 2023 10:04:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by tiger.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 44A2A22A9D5; Fri, 1 Dec 2023 10:04:30 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <83zfyu9wdg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 01 Dec 2023 10:10:03 +0200") X-Yow: Hmmm... an arrogant bouquet with a subtle suggestion of POLYVINYL CHLORIDE... Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.18.0.9; envelope-from=whitebox@nefkom.net; helo=mail-out.m-online.net X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313429 Archived-At: On Dez 01 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Exactly my point: these periods and other special characters are > "magic" in pcase, but not elsewhere in Lisp. This is not true. There is no magic at all in the use of this reader feature which is totally lost after reading. It is absolutely impossible to detect its use afterwards. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."