I believe I've found a bug leading to a data loss situation. Steps to reproduce. 1. Setup a maildir virtual server 2. Create two or more groups in it. 3. Set expire-age and expire-group parameters (G p) for one so that messages would be moved to the other. 4. Exit Gnus and Emacs 5. Deliver a message to that group (let's call it source group) with a date older than expire-age (for example using the script below) 6. Run Gnus 7. (Optional) M-x describe-function nnmaildir--pgname. Go to the function and C-u M-x eval-defun. 8. Enter the source group. 9. (Optional) The debugger will stop in nnmaildir--pgname. Go step by step and notice the prefix (inside the let) will become an empty string. This string will be also set as the prefix of the server passed to the function. 10. (Optional though recommended) Enable debugging for nnmaildir-request-expire-articles. 11. Mark the message delivered in point 5 as expirable (E) 12. Exit the group. 13. (Optional depending on point 10) The debugger will stop in nnmaildir-request-expire-articles. Skip to the point where the pgname variable is set. With debugging enabled for nnmaildir--pgname you can follow the entire process and notice that pgname won't have appropriate prefix and will be (most probably) equal to gname. Go on to the point where the target variable is set --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- target (if force nil (save-excursion (save-restriction (nnmaildir--param pgname 'expire-group))))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- At this point when nnmaildir--param is set with a group name without a prefix it will return nil which will prevent the message from being moved in the next few lines --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (when (and (stringp target) (not (string-equal target pgname))) ;; Move it. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- but not from being unlinked near the end of the nnmaildir-request-expire-articls function. 14. The message gets totally removed. The major problem seems to araise from gnus-group-prefixed-name not finding proper group prefix, which happens because the method field of nnmaildir--srv doesn't seem to be properly set in nnmaildir--prepare. I am digging deeper and deeper but I can't find anything obvious, so I think this is the moment I will share me findings anyway. As far as I can tell this scenario takes place only when I mark as expirable messages that are alredy older than expire-age. Those which get marked early after receiving and wait as expirable, apparently make it nicely to the archive. BTW. 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