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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Dmitry <dmitry@gutov.dev>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org,  "Stephen Leake" <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
Subject: Re: Ada-mode to be abandoned?
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2024 16:26:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edetm7nh.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c239c620-7d68-48a2-9a2d-90bb22143b84@app.fastmail.com> (dmitry@gutov.dev's message of "Sun, 07 Jan 2024 17:21:49 +0200")

Dmitry <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:

> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024, at 2:34 PM, Philip Kaludercic wrote:
>> What I am wondering, is if this simplification were to take place, if it
>> would be possible to add ada-mode (or ada-ts-mode in that case) back to
>> the core?
> What is this fetish of adding everything to the core?

For me it is usually just that it is easier for a newcomer to get stuff
working, without having to deal with package management, which can be a
bother when working offline or in isolated environments.  TBH
tree-sitter complicates this somewhat, because the grammars are not
installed along with Emacs or by the system, but that is a different
issue.

> ELPA is just one 'M-x package-install' away.
>
> And Ada is niche enough that even the argument of having the popular
> languages supported OOtB doesn't work.

There are plenty of languages that are niche and supported OOtB,
especially since the introduction of tree-sitter (I for example am not
familiar with "heex").  If I were to consider helping out with
maintaining the major mode -- where my main disinclination is just the
lack of experience I have with Ada -- I'd prefer to maintain it inside
the core, because if nothing else it makes it easier for others to help
out with bugs/mistakes and use the newest features.

Either way, the current state of `ada-mode' is in my experience in no
way satisfactory, and I believe that this kind of issue is less likely
to happen inside the core.

-- 
Philip Kaludercic



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-07 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-07 12:34 Ada-mode to be abandoned? Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-07 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07 15:21 ` Dmitry
2024-01-07 15:25   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07 15:54     ` Dmitry
2024-01-07 16:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-08  2:14         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-08  3:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-08 12:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-08 12:37               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-08  1:45       ` Po Lu
2024-01-07 15:34   ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-07 15:45     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-07 15:58     ` Dmitry
2024-01-07 17:52     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-07 16:26   ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2024-01-07 16:48     ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-07 20:36     ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-07 21:02       ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-07 21:27         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-07 22:05           ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-08  3:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07 17:46   ` Is it better to add treesitter modes to core? Stefan Kangas
2024-01-07 21:27     ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-08  6:15       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-08 12:46         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-08 12:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-09 19:27           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-09 19:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-09 20:21               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-10  3:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-09  5:20       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-09 17:50         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-09 17:54           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-09 18:59           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-09 19:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-09 20:06               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-10  6:27                 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-10 11:38                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-10 12:03                     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-10 12:14                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-10 15:11                         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-10 12:35                       ` Modes in generic-x.el (was: Is it better to add treesitter modes to core?) Peter Oliver
2024-01-10 13:50                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-10 13:47                       ` Is it better to add treesitter modes to core? Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07 16:29 ` Ada-mode to be abandoned? Fernando Oleo Blanco
2024-01-07 16:48   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-07 17:22     ` Fernando Oleo Blanco

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