From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 72b1379f079: Increase `emacs-lisp-docstring-fill-column` to 72 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2024 15:35:25 +0100 Message-ID: <87eddvaq8i.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <170687730547.552.9673193819426474611@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20240202123506.0CEC7C0EFF5@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87mssjm0ac.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6027"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:GPYgTGwBrivM6x9GzA1GqSb/LH8= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 02 15:43:07 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rVul0-0001KF-S2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2024 15:43:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rVukK-0004DJ-HK; Fri, 02 Feb 2024 09:42:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rVudx-0001d1-C4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2024 09:35:51 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rVudl-0004Ac-TG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2024 09:35:47 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rVudk-0001p0-1H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2024 15:35:36 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Feb 2024 09:42:21 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315748 Archived-At: Po Lu wrote: > Generally speaking, 65 columns is already excessive for > mobile phone displays, but only just, and it is usually > possible to infer partially obscured words while reading doc > strings without scrolling lengthwise. Filling doc strings to > 72 columns removes that ability, forcing readers to scroll > the display back and forth to uncover obscured words, so it > can't be more of a compromise between narrow and wide > displays than 65 columns is. IBM punched card - 80 chars US teletypewriter - 72 new Emacs smartphone CPL standard - ? This is what happens if one has stuff hardcoded BTW. Maybe motivated to allow ascii art (boxes and arrows and stuff) and allowing the programmer to fine-tune in an easy way. Still this situation then when new hardware is introduced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characters_per_line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_length -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal