From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Whitton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-30 baaf97ce1a1: ; Fix some ungrammatical uses of "allows to" Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 20:00:53 +0100 Message-ID: <87ed65al96.fsf@zephyr.silentflame.com> References: <86h6b1ewop.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1559"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 30 21:01:42 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sk6sP-0000HV-J7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 21:01:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sk6ro-0001B2-VL; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:01:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sk6rm-0001Am-J0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sk6rl-0003Uz-09 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:01:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=Ih2WYCtK+PvQQXPdTOo399VgYHEGQWctwqHb3Va9xX49WYmGbxXw1KePe9lAN5L2a5ZC4xIYN9vq2azpC7geatjtod/xLSevQkXthrVJlB4MRlJGtzjdKAMvlfCzOPr/LoXM9mYY5Vqyh4IKmr8u7qjSXO/qOJ2zFcCkTUPjXYd4s1rx1vVhG3zAWCwZSW+WGAeEvoVnhGHd/x19rMUhbdgibbcoSdcYc61LeutiWX7uzJ/UNRFFUmPU/SRHfQI1GkDW8BB6wuRf/lb8mgN3tgEfZQz0/sv2hS/WFvusDU/K/rJDTVcYxDuZVge/B7Ljd5yS6qLAjRfXl3qukUj1SQ==; s=purelymail3; d=spwhitton.name; v=1; bh=tNkOVOEBRB/YC8MUgBXhs1xd5/VO7akgsY2dd9j+ogE=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=G4uCXZRsFk880Kr9z1rB+Wx1Cf3p4q+jW3a1VDE0d0pyn9udQQw+xZP/hjVElzwOKPpLpKz+O4B5biAoSu/dNpUW+K3S2RJxxgPYNGk4LsXf19Qyma1pWioQFjtA5AkEcAT5/RnMjdoC+X6nrC/T35p6hqxaHCZkCtTuJ0B9oateSZQHqjr+/oXNu0OQEnOe6+wTy5JVwa6KBxKq/RbSXfQ2jTV1qasxRBeJrGavFeGYPB/RpO3f77oQnQC5sUFd/pfvLh2SI85Hx1CPcmsKVz9TVDbeF7yByTSBrtUZAhTpEoVO2mm+BlHw/ZeLYwRWyYFx/UI7o9a5VvCVJilTuQ==; s=purelymail3; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=tNkOVOEBRB/YC8MUgBXhs1xd5/VO7akgsY2dd9j+ogE=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; Feedback-ID: 20115:3760:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id -477586005; (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by zephyr.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 92FAB940F2D; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 20:00:53 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <86h6b1ewop.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 30 Aug 2024 20:40:22 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=34.202.193.197; envelope-from=spwhitton@spwhitton.name; helo=sendmail.purelymail.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323211 Archived-At: Hello, On Fri 30 Aug 2024 at 08:40pm +03, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > It is wrong to fix problems in Gnulib files in our repository, because > those fixes will be overridden when the files are next time imported > from Gnulib. Problems in Gnulib should be reported to the Gnulib list > instead. Oops. Thanks. I didn't edit ORG-NEWS because of this issue. It's just m4/gnulib-common.m4 I should undo, right? Or do we not need to undo it now, and just wait for the next gnulib import? > More generally, "allows to" is AFAIK not necessarily a grammatical > mistake, it's a stylistic preference. So this kind of changes should > not have been made automatically and without discussion. It's not just stylistic -- it's certainly incorrect in American English, which is Emacs's dialect. -- Sean Whitton