From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: parts of modeline live in spacious suburbs, others can't even pay rent Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:04:46 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87d68lf9i9.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1076616861 29852 80.91.224.253 (12 Feb 2004 20:14:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 12 21:14:11 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ArNDv-0004Cc-00 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:14:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ArND0-0003ZD-RY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:13:14 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ArNCz-0003YI-41 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:13:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ArNCS-0003QA-Th for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:13:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [204.74.68.40] (helo=frodo.hserus.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1ArNCS-0003Ot-5L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:12:40 -0500 Original-Received: from tc218-187-76-252.2-4.pl.apol.com.tw ([218.187.76.252]:32788 helo=jidanni.org) by frodo.hserus.net with asmtp (Cipher TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.30 #0) id 1ArNCO-000Dxa-Oi by authid with plain for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 01:42:38 +0530 Original-Received: from jidanni by jidanni.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1Ar4LW-0001cc-CO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:04:46 +0800 Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:6944 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:6944 Gentlemen, let's examine the modeline on my already 95 column wide terminal. --B-:%%-F1 fetch-script-wget-jidanni.org (fetch-script-wget-jidanni.org.zip) (Shell-script[ Certainly you notice the big gap between the parenthesized items, and at the same time there are things truncated. Try it yourself, hit v v on a .zip file in dired. But this exposes a larger problem, a systemic problem perhaps: Some parts of the modeline are basking in the leisure space only found in the most affluent of suburbs, whilst other parts are being shoved off the 3rd world cliff of destitution. The modeline needs to operate as a whole, a continuum, a gestalt... I prescribe a dose of fill-paragraph, with the JUSTIFY argument, on it before airing it in public...