From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jay Belanger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: texinfo.tex change. Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:28:02 -0600 Message-ID: <87d5v9asrh.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> References: <876513nswn.fsf@xs4all.nl> <874qgn87cu.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <87acqdjnxm.fsf@xs4all.nl> <87hdklaxh2.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <01c50f2b$Blat.v2.4$d768b0e0@zahav.net.il> Reply-To: belanger@truman.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108014136 13215 80.91.229.2 (10 Feb 2005 05:42:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 05:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: storm@cua.dk, belanger@truman.edu, Lute.Kamstra.lists@xs4all.nl, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 10 06:42:15 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cz75c-0000vF-Hq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:42:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cz7KI-00021u-5c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:57:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Cz7J2-0001cp-CF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Cz7In-0001Xl-PO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:55:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cz7In-0001TP-LW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:55:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [150.243.160.94] (helo=uranium.truman.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cz6sH-0002qc-EK; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:28:21 -0500 Original-Received: from gold.truman.edu (gold.truman.edu [150.243.160.250]) by uranium.truman.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1A5SJc7016705; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:28:19 -0600 (envelope-from belanger@truman.edu) Original-Received: from vh213602.truman.edu.truman.edu (unknown [150.243.190.70]) by gold.truman.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86E86E4109; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:28:10 -0600 (CST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <01c50f2b$Blat.v2.4$d768b0e0@zahav.net.il> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:47:59 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33176 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33176 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: ... >> I currently have Texinfo 4.8. >> I'll add a definition for @LaTeX in calc.texi, so it won't matter >> which version of makeinfo is used (I hope). > > Please don't: you cannot do that in a way that would avoid problems > with versions of Texinfo that do support @LaTeX. I already put it in, but it could come out easily enough. But it didn't cause any problems here. (I put in the definition for info output, not TeX output.) I thought it would just override any previous definition of @LaTeX, if there were one. >> > @LaTeX{} was introduced in Texinfo 4.7 (9 April 2004). I'll update >> > README that currently says that Texinfo 4.2 or later is needed. >> >> The change to calc.texi will still be needed. > > Why do we need to use @LaTeX{} in calc.texi? What's so important > about this macro that it must be used there? To typeset "LaTeX" properly. > In general, we don't want to force users to install too recent > versions of Texinfo, so the very recent introductions should be > avoided if possible. I didn't realize that this was a recent introduction when I put it in. All instances of @LaTeX could be replaced by La@TeX, but then the typeset output wouldn't look as good. It would make more sense, then, to either stick with @LaTeX and put definitions (\gdef for TeX and macro for non-TeX output) in calc.texi, or I guess I should properly define a new macro @fooLaTeX (or whatever) and use that. Jay