From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: info.texi Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 19:57:14 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87d5otljgd.fsf@jurta.org> References: <200508041604.j74G4VS26576@tug.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1123177011 1217 80.91.229.2 (4 Aug 2005 17:36:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 17:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 04 19:36:48 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0jcz-00042u-N7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 19:35:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0jb9-0001JO-S4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:33:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E0jav-0001Fp-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:33:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E0jan-0001Cx-3Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:33:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0jam-00016A-0D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:33:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.111] (helo=mail.neti.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E0jVc-0002NH-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:27:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-42-219-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.42.219]) by Relayhost1.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EB7191E; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 20:14:45 +0300 (EEST) Original-To: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) In-Reply-To: <200508041604.j74G4VS26576@tug.org> (Karl Berry's message of "Thu, 4 Aug 2005 18:04:31 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:41493 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:41493 > ! In Emacs, the file name is not hidden as well, > > This seems a little unclear to me. Does Emacs always show the file > name, or only if it differs from the current manual? Emacs always shows the file name. Since texinfo doesn't produce Info files with cross-references where the file name between parentheses refers to the current manual, so cross-references displayed by Emacs always refer to another Info file, and the file name between parentheses is always visible. > ! @samp{Overview} cross reference above and watch what happens. If you > > Perhaps nicer to include an actual cross-reference here instead > referring to an xref "above". Like this? @@ -816,7 +816,8 @@ appearing in a separate box (tool tip) or in the echo area will show the full cross-reference including the file name and the node name of the cross reference. If you have a mouse, just leave it over the -@samp{Overview} cross reference above and watch what happens. If you +cross reference @xref{Top,, Overview of Texinfo, texinfo, Texinfo: +The GNU Documentation Format}, and watch what happens. If you always like to have that information visible without having to move your mouse over the cross reference, use @kbd{M-x visible-mode}, or set @code{Info-hide-note-references} to a value other than @code{t} > ! @item Info-fontify > ! When set to a non-@code{nil} value, enables highlighting of Info > > Nothing to do with this text, which is fine by me, but a question: is > there any way to turn off fontification "globally"? Or does each > individual xxx-fontify (or whatever variable) have to be turned off? I > find fontified results hard to read in "tty" emacs (in an xterm, as > opposed to running directly under X). At one point I did (setq-default > global-font-lock-mode nil) but that doesn't seem to have any particular > effect any more. (In 21.3.) I don't know what was the intended way to turn off fontification in Info after removing the variable `Info-fontify' (this is not explained anywhere in the documentation). But deleting `turn-on-font-lock' from `Info-mode-hook' before calling `Info-mode' should do this. Or invoking `M-x font-lock-mode' once will do the same. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/