global key not binding

global key not binding

[Baloff]

Hello

(global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c b
(global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c p

I get symbol function definition is void ...



another point:
$info gcc puts out the info pages.
but in emacs C-h i m gcc does not show anything about gcc.
any problem I need to fix to see the info for gcc.

thanks

Re: global key not binding

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 10.08.2005 um 10:15 schrieb Baloff:

> $info gcc puts out the info pages.
> but in emacs C-h i m gcc does not show anything about gcc.
> any problem I need to fix to see the info for gcc.
>

Emacs needs the dir directory files in the info directories to know 
what info files exist there.

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Re: global key not binding

[Joe Corneli]

   Hello

   (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c b
   (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c p

   I get symbol function definition is void ...

That is to be expected.

,----
| global-set-key is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `subr'.
| (global-set-key key command)
| 
| Give key a global binding as command.
`----

Try

(global-set-key "\C-cb" (lambda ()
                          (interactive)
                          (copy-region-as-kill (point-min)
                                               (point-max))))

Re: global key not binding

[Baloff]

Joe Corneli <jcorneli@math.utexas.edu> writes:

>    Hello
> 
>    (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c b
>    (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c p
> 
>    I get symbol function definition is void ...
> 
> That is to be expected.
>

why then this work:
(Global-set-key "\C-cl" "\C-a\C-@\C-e\M-w") ;copy ling C-c l

 
> ,----
> | global-set-key is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `subr'.
> | (global-set-key key command)
> | 
> | Give key a global binding as command.
> `----
> 
> Try
> 
> (global-set-key "\C-cb" (lambda ()
>                           (interactive)
>                           (copy-region-as-kill (point-min)
>                                                (point-max))))

Re: global key not binding

[Joe Corneli]

 
   >    (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c b
   >    (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c p
   > 
   >    I get symbol function definition is void ...
   > 
   > That is to be expected.
   >

   why then this work:
   (global-set-key "\C-cl" "\C-a\C-@\C-e\M-w") ;copy ling C-c l

OK, I guess it isn't to be expected.  The question boils down to the
behavior of the function `define-key', which is what `global-set-key'
calls (without any intervening typechecking) and which _does_ allow
"strings treated as macros".  So, I have no idea.

Evaluating this works:

(execute-kbd-macro "\C-xh\M-w")

But anyway, my hint should work for you.  Maybe someone else
can say whether you found a bug or not.

Re: global key not binding

[Lennart Borgman]

Joe Corneli wrote:

> 
>   >    (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c b
>   >    (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c p
>   > 
>   >    I get symbol function definition is void ...
>   > 
>   > That is to be expected.
>   >
>
>   why then this work:
>   (global-set-key "\C-cl" "\C-a\C-@\C-e\M-w") ;copy ling C-c l
>
>OK, I guess it isn't to be expected.  The question boils down to the
>behavior of the function `define-key', which is what `global-set-key'
>calls (without any intervening typechecking) and which _does_ allow
>"strings treated as macros".  So, I have no idea.
>
>Evaluating this works:
>
>(execute-kbd-macro "\C-xh\M-w")
>
>But anyway, my hint should work for you.  Maybe someone else
>can say whether you found a bug or not.
>
I just checked in the CVS version of Emacs. It seems to work.

I saw in one of the messages "Global-set-key" instead of 
"global-set-key" but I guess that was just a typo?

Re: global key not binding

[Joe Corneli]

   Joe Corneli wrote:

   > 
   >   >    (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c b
   >   >    (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c p
   >   > 
   >   >    I get symbol function definition is void ...
   >   > 
   >   > That is to be expected.
   >   >
   >
   >   why then this work:
   >   (global-set-key "\C-cl" "\C-a\C-@\C-e\M-w") ;copy ling C-c l
   >
   >OK, I guess it isn't to be expected.  The question boils down to the
   >behavior of the function `define-key', which is what `global-set-key'
   >calls (without any intervening typechecking) and which _does_ allow
   >"strings treated as macros".  So, I have no idea.
   >
   >Evaluating this works:
   >
   >(execute-kbd-macro "\C-xh\M-w")
   >
   >But anyway, my hint should work for you.  Maybe someone else
   >can say whether you found a bug or not.

   I just checked in the CVS version of Emacs. It seems to work.

Crikey... I'm 99% sure it was NOT working earlier today (here with
with the same recent version of Emacs, but not same image).

Re: global key not binding

[Baloff]

Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> writes:

> Joe Corneli wrote:
> 
> >   >    (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c b
> >   >    (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c p
> >   >   >    I get symbol function definition is void ...
> >   >   > That is to be expected.
> >   >
> >
> >   why then this work:
> >   (global-set-key "\C-cl" "\C-a\C-@\C-e\M-w") ;copy ling C-c l
> >
> >OK, I guess it isn't to be expected.  The question boils down to the
> >behavior of the function `define-key', which is what `global-set-key'
> >calls (without any intervening typechecking) and which _does_ allow
> >"strings treated as macros".  So, I have no idea.
> >
> >Evaluating this works:
> >
> >(execute-kbd-macro "\C-xh\M-w")
> >
> >But anyway, my hint should work for you.  Maybe someone else
> >can say whether you found a bug or not.
> >
> I just checked in the CVS version of Emacs. It seems to work.

sorry, what is CVS version and my version under debian. ok newbi.
thanks

> 
> I saw in one of the messages "Global-set-key" instead of
> "global-set-key" but I guess that was just a typo?

Re: global key not binding

[Kevin Rodgers]

Baloff wrote:
 > (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c b
 > (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c p
 >
 > I get symbol function definition is void ...

It works for me.  (Note that the 2 lines are identical, except for the
comments -- is there a typo in there?)

To find out where the error occurs:
M-x set-variable RET debug-on-error RET t RET

 > another point:
 > $info gcc puts out the info pages.
 > but in emacs C-h i m gcc does not show anything about gcc.
 > any problem I need to fix to see the info for gcc.

,----[ C-h v Info-directory-list RET ]
| Info-directory-list's value is
| ("/opt/csw/info/" "/usr/local/info/")
|
|
| Documentation:
| List of directories to search for Info documentation files.
| nil means not yet initialized.  In this case, Info uses the environment
| variable INFOPATH to initialize it, or `Info-default-directory-list'
| if there is no INFOPATH variable in the environment.
|
| When `Info-directory-list' is initialized from the value of
| `Info-default-directory-list', and Emacs is installed in one of the
| standard directories, the directory of Info files that come with Emacs
| is put last (so that local Info files override standard ones).
|
| When `Info-directory-list' is initialized from the value of
| `Info-default-directory-list', and Emacs is not installed in one
| of the standard directories, the first element of the resulting
| list is the directory where Emacs installs the Info files that
| come with it.  This is so that Emacs's own manual, which suits the
| version of Emacs you are using, will always be found first.  This
| is useful when you install an experimental version of Emacs without
| removing the standard installation.
|
| If you want to override the order of directories in
| `Info-default-directory-list', set INFOPATH in the environment.
|
| If you run the Emacs executable from the `src' directory in the Emacs
| source tree, and INFOPATH is not defined, the `info' directory in the
| source tree is used as the first element of `Info-directory-list', in
| place of the installation Info directory.  This is useful when you run
| a version of Emacs without installing it.
|
| Defined in `info'.
`----

-- 
Kevin Rodgers

Re: global key not binding

[Baloff]

Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:

> Am 10.08.2005 um 10:15 schrieb Baloff:
> 
> > $info gcc puts out the info pages.
> > but in emacs C-h i m gcc does not show anything about gcc.
> > any problem I need to fix to see the info for gcc.
> >
> 
> Emacs needs the dir directory files in the info directories to know
> what info files exist there.
> 


Thanks

I fond some info about how to fix my problem but needing some help in
implementing the solution.
I don't have INFOPATH in my $env output.
my paths.el is there but I don't understand it much.

I need to add this (/var/lib/dpkg/info/) to the list in the variable
(Info-directory-list) 

C-h v Info-directory-list list does not have it, so I think I have to
add it.
how should I do it?

thanks

Re: global key not binding

[Kevin Rodgers]

Baloff wrote:
 > I need to add this (/var/lib/dpkg/info/) to the list in the variable
 > (Info-directory-list)
 >
 > C-h v Info-directory-list list does not have it, so I think I have to
 > add it.
 > how should I do it?

(setq Info-default-directory-list
       (cons "/var/lib/dpkg/info/" Info-default-directory-list))

-- 
Kevin Rodgers

Re: global key not binding

[Henrik Enberg]

> From: Baloff <washdc@wash.edu>
> Date: 11 Aug 2005 07:13:14 +1000
> 
> I need to add this (/var/lib/dpkg/info/) to the list in the variable
> (Info-directory-list) 

No you don't.  That's the Debian package systems state files. They have
nothing to do with info documents.

Re: global key not binding

[Baloff]

Henrik Enberg <henrik.enberg@telia.com> writes:

> > From: Baloff <washdc@wash.edu>
> > Date: 11 Aug 2005 07:13:14 +1000
> > 
> > I need to add this (/var/lib/dpkg/info/) to the list in the variable
> > (Info-directory-list) 
> 
> No you don't.  That's the Debian package systems state files. They have
> nothing to do with info documents.

well, I did not know any better way to find out where the info doc for
gcc than this:
$dpkg gcc | grep info
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc-3.3-base.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc-3.3-base.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc-3.3.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc-3.3.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc.preinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc.prerm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1.postrm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1.shlibs

Re: global key not binding

[Henrik Enberg]

> From: Baloff <washdc@wash.edu>
> Date: 12 Aug 2005 08:10:45 +1000
> 
> Henrik Enberg <henrik.enberg@telia.com> writes:
> 
> > > From: Baloff <washdc@wash.edu>
> > > Date: 11 Aug 2005 07:13:14 +1000
> > > 
> > > I need to add this (/var/lib/dpkg/info/) to the list in the variable
> > > (Info-directory-list) 
> > 
> > No you don't.  That's the Debian package systems state files. They have
> > nothing to do with info documents.
> 
> well, I did not know any better way to find out where the info doc for
> gcc than this:
> $dpkg gcc | grep info

Have you installed the gcc-*-doc packages?  the files should end up in
/usr/share/info

Re: global key not binding

[Baloff]

Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> writes:

> Baloff wrote:
> 
>  > (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c b
>  > (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c p
>  >
>  > I get symbol function definition is void ...
> 
> It works for me.  (Note that the 2 lines are identical, except for the
> comments -- is there a typo in there?)
> 
> To find out where the error occurs:
> M-x set-variable RET debug-on-error RET t RET
> 

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "The mark is not set now")
  call-interactively(kill-ring-save)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command)

Re: global key not binding

[Kevin Rodgers]

Baloff wrote:
> Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> 
>>Baloff wrote:
>>
>> > (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c b
>> > (global-set-key "\C-cb" "\C-xh\M-w") ;copy buffer C-c p
>> >
>> > I get symbol function definition is void ...
>>
>>It works for me.  (Note that the 2 lines are identical, except for the
>>comments -- is there a typo in there?)
>>
>>To find out where the error occurs:
>>M-x set-variable RET debug-on-error RET t RET
>>
> 
> 
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "The mark is not set now")
>   call-interactively(kill-ring-save)
>   execute-extended-command(nil)
>   call-interactively(execute-extended-command)

`C-x h' should set the mark.  The doc string for `M-w' mentions
Transient Mark mode, but even with that turned on I couldn't replicate
the error.

Do you get the error in a vanilla Emacs (emacs -q --no-site-file),
evaluating the global-set-key form in the *scratch* buffer?

-- 
Kevin Rodgers