From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Bug repository Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:40:09 -0700 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <87d5nip2bq.fsf_-_@olgas.newt.com> References: <200509062007.04648.ismail@uludag.org.tr> <17181.65500.337376.386116@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <200509062349.18090.ismail@uludag.org.tr> <17182.8135.530028.132576@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <871x3znuon.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <873boejsyd.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1126288272 32361 80.91.229.2 (9 Sep 2005 17:51:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 09 19:51:10 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EDmzW-0001NR-JL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:48:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EDmzW-00072N-4g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:48:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EDmyn-0006r8-Rw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EDmym-0006qc-Kv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:48:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EDmym-0006pg-A9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:48:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1EDn1s-0003Xt-CT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:51:12 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EDmti-0007Bh-QM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:42:46 +0200 Original-Received: from h-68-165-3-15.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.165.3.15]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:42:46 +0200 Original-Received: from wohler by h-68-165-3-15.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:42:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 46 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: h-68-165-3-15.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:M8L7MB6dDT98LU61vlwQ20gal2c= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:42789 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> Let's take it as a reminder that when we commit a fix, we should make sure >>> we describe the bug it fixes, either in comments in the code (when >>> possible/meaningful) or in the ChangeLog entry. > >> Alas, there's no machinery in GNU coding/development standards to >> record such information. In Emacs, we don't even have a bug >> repository to which one can refer, like "see bug #12345" or some such >> (a reference to the mail-list thread might serve as a replacement, but >> only if the problem was discussed publicly in enough detail). A >> description of a bug with enough info to reproduce it later could take >> a lot of text, > > Even if we had a bug repository, I'd prefer a longish text, so you don't > need to refer to the bug database to know what it is. The only alternative > would be if the bug database is stored alongside the source files. I agree that inserting the full text in the code or ChangeLog would be too much. Why not turn on the bug page at http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/emacs/? Referencing bug numbers in the ChangeLog is short and easy and makes it easy to refer to the full dialog of the issue. The Savannah bug repository also makes it really easy to create release notes in a form which makes it easy for a user to see if their bug was fixed or feature implemented. Note that bug reports can (and should) be forwarded to a mailing list (such as emacs-devel) so that people are aware of them. I don't know if Savannah has the ability to append comments to a bug report via mail, but since the URL is in each message, it is easy enough to click on the link and enter the comment on the web form. That inconvenience is far outweighed by the advantages of a bug tracking system. Bug reports and feature requests can't get forgotten as they might on a mailing list. I had expected to find a discussion about this already, but I couldn't find one. -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.