From: Jay Belanger <belanger@truman.edu>
Cc: belanger@truman.edu
Subject: Re: Key-binding clash between gnus and calc
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:33:05 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d5l1hfke.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc339e4a0511151108g213ca36dl@mail.gmail.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 16 Nov 2005 04:08:44 +0900")
Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com> writes:
> 2005/11/16, Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de>:
>> This is about a inconsistency in emacs which should be fixed. calc is
>> part of GNU emacs and it uses and documents M-# as a global binding,
>> while gnus -- part of gnu emacs, too -- binds it locally. Of cause I
>> can use a custom binding for calc as Jay suggested (and in fact, it's
>> what I'm doing for now), but I think the TRTTD would be to change
>> either binding. Global default bindings in emacs should be global.
>
> Both bindings are really old, and are quite commonly used; changing
> either one may cause more harm (read: piss off more people) than good.
> It's hardly a tragedy to have to use "M-x calc" when in a gnus
> summary buffer.
No; but it is inconvenient if you have to take into account the
current mode before knowing which method to use. This can be taken
care of by using M-x calc-dispatch all the time, I suppose, but that's
not as nice as using M-#, especially when you might be doing a lot of
different things with Calc.
> However, I think if one _must_ be changed, it should be calc, becuase
> calc until now has always been an extra add-on to Emacs, and for that
> reason probably used by many fewer people than gnus (which has been a
> part of emacs for a long time).
Yes. Gnus definitely has precedence for M-#.
Are there any conventions for global keybindings? The key bindings
conventions section of the elisp manual don't mention any, and doesn't
even discuss M-... keys.
> Morever, if I recall correctly, historically the M-# binding for
> calc has been more of a "suggestion" than anything else (I seem to
> remember that the calc installation instructions told the user to
> bind it himself).
In the 2.02 manual, the installation procedure sets the keybinding.
Jay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-15 19:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-15 16:45 Key-binding clash between gnus and calc Sascha Wilde
2005-11-15 17:02 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-15 18:47 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-15 19:08 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-15 19:33 ` Jay Belanger [this message]
2005-11-16 10:48 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16 16:21 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-17 14:07 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-17 18:32 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-17 21:40 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-17 21:58 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-19 18:12 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-20 13:29 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-20 18:14 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-20 22:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-21 1:50 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-21 2:50 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-21 8:10 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 5:01 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 10:28 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 14:41 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 10:57 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-22 16:02 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 17:42 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 20:26 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 20:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-22 22:40 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23 1:37 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-23 4:15 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23 5:14 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23 6:29 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23 8:17 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-23 9:19 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 9:42 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-23 9:47 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 10:04 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-24 3:57 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23 11:53 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-24 3:58 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-27 3:27 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-24 8:48 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-24 12:18 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-24 13:07 ` Michael Cadilhac
2005-11-24 14:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-24 14:45 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-24 17:12 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-25 15:49 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-25 20:22 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-27 20:04 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 4:46 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-24 10:40 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-25 15:49 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-24 3:58 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 21:14 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 21:06 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 21:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-23 6:06 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 6:24 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23 9:18 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 12:06 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 11:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-20 23:47 ` Ryan Yeske
2005-11-20 23:57 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 2:20 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-04 22:19 ` Ryan Yeske
2005-12-05 16:37 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-21 21:39 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-21 22:15 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-15 17:16 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-15 23:22 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16 8:30 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-20 1:17 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20 9:54 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-20 21:42 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20 10:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-17 7:55 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-17 9:19 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-17 9:51 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-17 10:01 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-17 14:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-20 1:18 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20 4:16 ` Kevin Greiner
2005-11-21 7:32 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-18 16:57 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-18 18:24 ` Reiner Steib
[not found] <20051121194141.7FA5B1207F1@localhost.localdomain>
2005-11-22 10:57 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-22 14:15 ` Chong Yidong
2005-11-22 17:30 ` Henrik Enberg
2005-11-22 17:54 ` Jay Belanger
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