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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, pogonyshev@gmx.net
Subject: Re: Mode_switch in Emacs (was: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:27:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d5kkfrkm.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87acfp4itm.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:39:22 -0500")

> Regarding the XKB feature, I hope someone here will know what should be done
> so the bug can be fixed.
>
>> It should be deactivated while the Mode_switch is hold.  I.e. it should
>> work like Shift, if you like.  Otherwise there's little point in it, since
>> I could just press `C-\' twice as well with not so much more trouble.  When
>> it works like a modifier, I can keep on typing as normal, while switching
>> to a different layout significantly disrupts the process.

As I can see, everything works fine in CVS Emacs already.  The Mode_switch
key temporarily disables the russian layout while it is held in Emacs.
Perhaps something is wrong in Paul's configuration where Mode_switch
doesn't work correctly.

> This requires several changes at the C level (at the very least so as to
> get and process (mostly, ignore) key-release events).  But you may be able
> to simulate the behavior as follows:
>
> - set your xmodmap such that Mode_switch is assigned to an unused modifier
>   (e.g. Hyper).
> - add bindings in your .emacs of the form
>   (global-set-key [?\H-\[] "[")
>   (global-set-key [?\H-\'] "'")

I tried to assign Mode_switch to Hyper, and it works too, without the need
to add Emacs bindings to translate [?\H-\'] to "'".

>  * BUGS
>  
> +** When using a russian+latin layout with
> +
> +   setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout us,ru -variant ,winkeys
> +
> +pressing the W key while control is held generates a С-Ц rather than C-W.

This is not a bug, but quite a useless feature.  It enables only
a small subset of standard Emacs keybindings in the russian layout.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-28 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-22 19:50 wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-22 22:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-23  5:14 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23 19:52   ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-25 15:50     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-25 18:00       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-23  6:07 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-24 17:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-24 19:45   ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-24 20:56     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-25 19:37       ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-25 22:17         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-25 22:33           ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-25 22:44             ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-11-26 16:43               ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27  5:26                 ` Tomas Zerolo
2005-11-26  8:15             ` Eugene Vlasov
2005-11-26 19:44               ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-28 20:33                 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-26 15:10             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-26 16:46               ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27 18:19                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-27 21:39                   ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-28  2:39                     ` Mode_switch in Emacs (was: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed) Stefan Monnier
2005-11-28 20:27                       ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2005-11-28 22:14                         ` Mode_switch in Emacs Stefan Monnier
2005-11-28 23:08                           ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-29 16:24                             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-29 19:54                               ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-30  2:43                               ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 20:27               ` wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 23:14                 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-26  4:22       ` Richard M. Stallman
     [not found] ` <200511261925.20191.pogonyshev@gmx.net>
     [not found]   ` <17288.41589.506361.323637@parhasard.net>
2005-11-26 23:01     ` thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed) Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27  1:48       ` Ben Wing
2005-11-27  5:35         ` Tomas Zerolo
2005-11-27 11:29         ` thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed ) Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-28  5:25           ` thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed) Ben Wing
2005-11-28 19:09             ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27 18:35         ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-11-28  2:39 ` wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed Stefan Monnier
2005-11-28 20:28   ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 22:16     ` Stefan Monnier

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