From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pascal Bourguignon Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why emacs have not native language menu Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:02:15 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87d4yhbxiw.fsf@voyager.informatimago.com> References: <46A49912.9030203@luxdo.jp> <7056BAE9-002B-46B7-A60A-9EDE375392EE@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> <86FA8DD5-B87E-4E64-90C8-04AA81B9469A@Web.DE> <873aze3qtf.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87y7h53mjp.fsf@ambire.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185295275 10492 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2007 16:41:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:41:15 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 24 18:41:14 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IDNRi-0003XG-3h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:41:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDNRh-0000VM-Md for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:41:13 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news1.uni-leipzig.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Trace: individual.net iws0cMkLRlG3YQlLBaeW+wsht7tp5AvQ+pS9MYcP6km49Tj7hO Cancel-Lock: sha1:bf2wF3mmkyi5fJY55gla3wr5cNA= sha1:a5vupukjPeKXXycPVK1l4c97m2c= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en X-Disabled: X-No-Archive: no User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.94 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:150404 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:45986 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > On 24 juil. 07, at 23:26, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > >> () Jean-Christophe Helary >> () Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:00:28 +0900 >> >> No because the people who pretend that there are technical >> issues or that "it is impossible" do not make sense in the >> first place. >> >> perhaps you misunderstand them (more than they misunderstand you). > > Pascal Bourguignon's replies are a good example of misunderstanding > me: I am not talking about localizing the function names, which would > definitely create a mess, but about localizing the interface, as > Hadron very clearly put it. Or maybe Hadron is totally misunderstood > too ? But you don't understand me! function names are a great part of the interface of emacs. I never use the menu (first thing in my ~/.emacs is (mapc (lambda (f) (funcall f -1)) '(menu-bar-mode scroll-bar-mode tool-bar-mode)) ). Command names (that is function names) are a big part of the my interactive interface with emacs, thru M-x. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ ADVISORY: There is an extremely small but nonzero chance that, through a process known as "tunneling," this product may spontaneously disappear from its present location and reappear at any random place in the universe, including your neighbor's domicile. The manufacturer will not be responsible for any damages or inconveniences that may result.