* Re: weird emacs shell behavior
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@ 2007-08-17 17:36 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-08-17 18:19 ` Emilio Lopes
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From: Joel J. Adamson @ 2007-08-17 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
"phundamental unaudio" <unaudio@gmail.com> writes:
> hello, when i issue alt-x shell the prompt looks weird like this:
> [32;1mvytas@clt-84-32-234-17:~>[0m
> with those unnesecery characters in the beginning and the end. im
> using 22.1.1
> could anyone tell me what the problem could be?
Yes, I can tell you ;)
The [32, etc are control characters that indicate colors. Try turning
them off in your shell's rc file or use "M-x ansi-term" to see the
colors. Or learn to use Dired, which replaces much shell
functionality (I hardly use a real command line now).
Joel
--
Joel J. Adamson
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Pediatric Psychopharmacology Research Unit
Massachusetts General Hospital
Boston, MA 02114
(617) 643-1432
(303) 880-3109
"It can be interesting to study ancient philosophy, but more as a kind
of accident report than to teach you anything useful."
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* Re: weird emacs shell behavior
2007-08-17 17:36 ` weird emacs shell behavior Joel J. Adamson
@ 2007-08-17 18:19 ` Emilio Lopes
2007-08-17 18:26 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-08-17 19:34 ` Tassilo Horn
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From: Emilio Lopes @ 2007-08-17 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Joel J Adamson writes:
> "phundamental unaudio" <unaudio@gmail.com> writes:
>> hello, when i issue alt-x shell the prompt looks weird like this:
>> [32;1mvytas@clt-84-32-234-17:~>[0m
> The [32, etc are control characters that indicate colors. Try
> turning them off in your shell's rc file or use "M-x ansi-term" to
> see the colors.
No need to resort to `ansi-term', which is a full terminal-emulator.
You can have shell mode interpret those codes using
`ansi-color-for-comint-mode-on'.
--
Emílio C. Lopes
Munich, Germany
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* Re: weird emacs shell behavior
2007-08-17 18:19 ` Emilio Lopes
@ 2007-08-17 18:26 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-08-17 18:38 ` Emilio Lopes
2007-08-17 19:34 ` Tassilo Horn
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From: Joel J. Adamson @ 2007-08-17 18:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Emilio Lopes <eclig@gmx.net> writes:
> Joel J Adamson writes:
> No need to resort to `ansi-term', which is a full terminal-emulator.
> You can have shell mode interpret those codes using
> `ansi-color-for-comint-mode-on'.
What's the difference between shell-mode and a terminal emulator? I
had trouble getting used to shell-mode, so I refused to learn much
about it.
Joel
--
Joel J. Adamson
Biostatistician
Pediatric Psychopharmacology Research Unit
Massachusetts General Hospital
Boston, MA 02114
(617) 643-1432
(303) 880-3109
"It can be interesting to study ancient philosophy, but more as a kind
of accident report than to teach you anything useful."
--Paul Graham
http://www.paulgraham.com/raq.html
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* Re: weird emacs shell behavior
2007-08-17 18:26 ` Joel J. Adamson
@ 2007-08-17 18:38 ` Emilio Lopes
2007-08-17 19:40 ` Joel J. Adamson
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From: Emilio Lopes @ 2007-08-17 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Joel J Adamson writes:
> What's the difference between shell-mode and a terminal emulator?
`shell-mode' is a mode for running a command interpreter (in most
cases a shell) in an Emacs buffer. All Emacs commands are available
and work as expected: pressing "C-p" will move the cursor to the
previous line, "C-w" will kill the region etc.
In the terminal emulator you can run *any* terminal program, be it a
shell, a mailer or even VI (forgive the heresy!). How the keybindings
behave is dictated by the program running in the terminal.
If you want to run a terminal program like "trn", "less" or "lynx" you
have no option but `ansi-term'. For running a command interpreter
`shell-mode' offers you the best of both worlds: you can run your shell
*and* have all Emacs text manipulation facilities at your disposal.
Note that in shell-mode the command line editing provided by the your
shell (e.g. "readline") is not available; "shell-mode" provides it's
own command line editing facilities.
--
Emílio C. Lopes
Munich, Germany
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* Re: weird emacs shell behavior
2007-08-17 18:38 ` Emilio Lopes
@ 2007-08-17 19:40 ` Joel J. Adamson
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From: Joel J. Adamson @ 2007-08-17 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Emilio Lopes <eclig@gmx.net> writes:
> Joel J Adamson writes:
>
>> What's the difference between shell-mode and a terminal emulator?
> In the terminal emulator you can run *any* terminal program, be it a
> shell, a mailer or even VI (forgive the heresy!). How the keybindings
> behave is dictated by the program running in the terminal.
>
> If you want to run a terminal program like "trn", "less" or "lynx" you
> have no option but `ansi-term'. For running a command interpreter
> `shell-mode' offers you the best of both worlds: you can run your shell
> *and* have all Emacs text manipulation facilities at your disposal.
>
> Note that in shell-mode the command line editing provided by the your
> shell (e.g. "readline") is not available; "shell-mode" provides it's
> own command line editing facilities.
Those are my two reasons for preferring ansi-term. I sometimes run
lynx in ansi-term. When i'm using a terminal, I make extensive use of
command-line editing, so I didnt' like having the Emacs inter-line
commands work in the buffer instead of on the command line (ironic
though that is).
Joel
--
Joel J. Adamson
Biostatistician
Pediatric Psychopharmacology Research Unit
Massachusetts General Hospital
Boston, MA 02114
(617) 643-1432
(303) 880-3109
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* Re: weird emacs shell behavior
2007-08-17 18:19 ` Emilio Lopes
2007-08-17 18:26 ` Joel J. Adamson
@ 2007-08-17 19:34 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-08-17 21:09 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Tassilo Horn @ 2007-08-17 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Emilio Lopes <eclig@gmx.net> writes:
Hi Emilio,
>> The [32, etc are control characters that indicate colors. Try
>> turning them off in your shell's rc file or use "M-x ansi-term" to
>> see the colors.
>
> No need to resort to `ansi-term', which is a full terminal-emulator.
> You can have shell mode interpret those codes using
> `ansi-color-for-comint-mode-on'.
I did that and now I get nicely colored output, but still there are some
control characters left and each command is printed twice.
,----
| > echo "Hello, test!" <== That's what I typed. It's bold after RET
| > echo "Hello, test!" <== After my RET the line gets repeated...
| ^[]2;echo ~^GHello, test! <== After the ^G comes the output.
`----
Do you know what ^[ and ^G are for control chars and how I can get rid
of them?
If I do the same in an xterm I get
,----
| > echo "Hallo, test..."
| Hallo, test...
`----
without any coloring. So what's confusing emacs here?
Bye,
Tassilo
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* Re: weird emacs shell behavior
2007-08-17 19:34 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2007-08-17 21:09 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2007-08-17 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 17.08.2007 um 21:34 schrieb Tassilo Horn:
> | > echo "Hello, test!" <== That's what I typed. It's bold after RET
It becomes interpreted as prompt. Check comint-prompt-regexp and
shell-prompt-pattern.
> | > echo "Hello, test!" <== After my RET the line gets repeated...
Again, it seems to be kept for the prompt?
> | ^[]2;echo ~^GHello, test! <== After the ^G comes the output.
> `----
>
> Do you know what ^[ and ^G are for control chars and how I can get rid
> of them?
ESC\x05 and BELL. Maybe you should check which echo you are using, what
is set for it, and what else is set for the shell interpreter running
in *shell* buffer.
After all: are you using GNU Emacs 22? At some time GNU Emacs 21.3.50
from CVS learned this and GNU Emacs 22 inherited it. Earlier versions
don't work as described.
--
Mit friedvollen Grüßen
Pete
A morning without coffee is like something without something else.
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* Re: weird emacs shell behavior
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@ 2007-08-18 14:36 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-08-18 16:11 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Tassilo Horn @ 2007-08-18 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:
> Am 17.08.2007 um 21:34 schrieb Tassilo Horn:
>
>> | > echo "Hello, test!" <== That's what I typed. It's bold after RET
>
> It becomes interpreted as prompt. Check comint-prompt-regexp and
> shell-prompt-pattern.
,----[ C-h v comint-prompt-regexp RET ]
| comint-prompt-regexp is a variable defined in `comint.el'.
| Its value is
| "^[^#$%>\n]*[#$%>] *"
| Local in buffer *shell*; global value is "^"
|
| Documentation:
| Regexp to recognize prompts in the inferior process.
| Defaults to "^", the null string at BOL.
|
| This variable is only used if the variable
| `comint-use-prompt-regexp' is non-nil.
`----
By default `comint-use-prompt-regexp' is nil in *shell*. I've set it to
t, but that doesn't change things.
,----[ C-h v shell-prompt-pattern RET ]
| shell-prompt-pattern is a variable defined in `shell.el'.
| Its value is
| "^[^#$%>\n]*[#$%>] *"
`----
So it seems that `comint-prompt-regexp' is set to `shell-prompt-pattern'
in shell-mode.
And this regexp matches my prompt. It's only a simple "> " when TERM is
set to dumb.
(string-match shell-prompt-pattern "> ") == C-x C-e ==> 0
>> | > echo "Hello, test!" <== After my RET the line gets repeated...
>
> Again, it seems to be kept for the prompt?
>
>> | ^[]2;echo ~^GHello, test! <== After the ^G comes the output.
>> `----
>>
>> Do you know what ^[ and ^G are for control chars and how I can get rid
>> of them?
>
> ESC and BELL. Maybe you should check which echo you are using, what is
> set for it, and what else is set for the shell interpreter running in
> *shell* buffer.
,----
| > which echo
| > which echo
| ^[]2;which ~^G/bin/echo
`----
echo --help tells me it's the echo from coreutils 6.9.
,----
| > env
| > env
| ^[]2;env ~^GEMACS=t
| CLASSPATH= [snipped]
| DISPLAY=:0
| CVS_RSH=ssh
| INSIDE_EMACS=22.1.50.1,comint
| MAIL=/var/mail/heimdall
| JAVA_HOME=/opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0
| WINDOWPATH=7
| RI=--format ansi --width 80
| TERM=dumb
| SHLVL=2
| GREP_OPTIONS=--color=auto
| USER=heimdall
| GREP_COLOR=97;45
| LOGNAME=heimdall
| HOME=/home/heimdall
| DARCS_EDITOR=emacsclient
| INPUTRC=/etc/fish/fish_inputrc
| HUSHLOGIN=FALSE
| RGHOME=/home/heimdall/uni/repos/re-group/trunk
| VISUAL=emacsclient
| ANTLR_HOME=/usr/share/antlr/lib
| LS_COLORS=
| LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
| PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/games/bin:/home/heimdall/bin:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/local/bin
| EDITOR=emacsclient
| COLUMNS=96
| BOUML_ID=50
| BROWSER=firefox
| JAVA_VERSION=1.6.0
| TERMCAP=
| XAUTHORITY=/home/heimdall/.Xauthority
| LANG=en_US.UTF-8
| MAILHOST=pop.gmx.de
| SHELL=/bin/fish
| PWD=/home/heimdall
`----
> After all: are you using GNU Emacs 22?
Yes, a some hours old CVS checkout.
Bye,
Tassilo
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* Re: weird emacs shell behavior
2007-08-18 14:36 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2007-08-18 16:11 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2007-08-18 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 18.08.2007 um 16:36 schrieb Tassilo Horn:
>> After all: are you using GNU Emacs 22?
>
> Yes, a some hours old CVS checkout.
I have set
EMACS=t
and I am using a regular shell, tcsh. In my *shell* buffer the prompt
is found and fontified in bold and some colour.
You could make tests without loading any customisation and with a
different login shell ...
Could be it's worth to read the documentation on fish a few times
during this so-called summer. When I do this on tcsh I get every time
surprised ...
--
Mit friedvollen Grüßen
Pete
Who the fsck is "General Failure," and why is she reading my disk?
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* Re: weird emacs shell behavior
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@ 2007-08-18 16:30 ` Tassilo Horn
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From: Tassilo Horn @ 2007-08-18 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:
Hi Peter,
>>> After all: are you using GNU Emacs 22?
>>
>> Yes, a some hours old CVS checkout.
>
> I have set
>
> EMACS=t
>
> and I am using a regular shell, tcsh. In my *shell* buffer the prompt
> is found and fontified in bold and some colour.
Yes, with `shell-file-name' set to /usr/bash it works, too.
> Could be it's worth to read the documentation on fish a few times
> during this so-called summer. When I do this on tcsh I get every time
> surprised ...
Yes, I'll do that and if I don't find anything I'll ask on the fish
mailing list.
Bye,
Tassilo
--
The desire to be rewarded for one's creativity does not justify
depriving the world in general of all or part of that creativity.
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@ 2007-08-17 16:54 phundamental unaudio
2007-08-17 17:43 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: phundamental unaudio @ 2007-08-17 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
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hello, when i issue alt-x shell the prompt looks weird like this:
^[[32;1mvytas@clt-84-32-234-17:~>^[[0m
with those unnesecery characters in the beginning and the end. im using
22.1.1
could anyone tell me what the problem could be?
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* Re: weird emacs shell behavior
2007-08-17 16:54 phundamental unaudio
@ 2007-08-17 17:43 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2007-08-17 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: phundamental unaudio; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 17.08.2007 um 18:54 schrieb phundamental unaudio:
> when i issue alt-x shell the prompt looks weird like this:
> ^[[32;1mvytas@clt-84-32-234-17:~>^[[0m
> with those unnesecery characters in the beginning and the end. im
> using
> 22.1.1
> could anyone tell me what the problem could be?
Your bash prompt is creating ANSI Esc sequences to set colours or
effects.
In GNU Emacs 22 you can invoke
ansi-color-for-comint-mode-on
to make *shell* buffer interpret certain ANSI Esc sequences (you can
also put it into an init file). You can use a file ~/.emacs_<shell
interpreter's name> to adjust some settings for *shell* buffer. You
would need to use that shell interpreter's syntax. For example, if
your login shell is bash and you put
PS1="$ "
into ~/.emacs_bash than you'll have a much shorter and monochrome
prompt ...
--
Greetings
Pete
Increase the size of your bike by at least *five* inches!
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