From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: General variable for verbosity level. Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:44:18 -0800 Message-ID: <87d4tnihcd.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <198E2B70-D060-41D8-8BC2-A9614C2729CC@inf.ed.ac.uk> <6C0C2889-2C17-4E5C-BDB3-CB4F51BE163A@gmail.com> <877ijwlhb8.fsf_-_@red-bean.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196718282 18930 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2007 21:44:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Reitter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 03 22:44:50 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IzJ5u-0002O0-0Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:44:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzJ5d-0004cO-Jo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:44:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzJ5Y-0004Ww-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:44:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzJ5T-0004IX-BG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:44:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzJ5T-0004I2-4W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:44:23 -0500 Original-Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com ([66.146.193.61]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IzJ5P-0005aQ-KZ; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:44:19 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47062) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzJ5O-0007ZF-IV; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:44:18 -0600 In-Reply-To: (David Reitter's message of "Mon\, 3 Dec 2007 20\:22\:35 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84606 Archived-At: I got rid of the regular loading/saving messages in saveplace.el, which is what David originally suggested. Eli spoke up in favor of having such messages, but it's not clear that the majority of users know or care about them, and loading/saving places is such a fast operation that there's no user-visible delay to explain. It may well be that Emacs should have a general variable to control verbosity level, and if so, I'd certainly be in favor of saveplace.el using that variable. But since we don't currently have that variable, saveplace.el has to make a decision, and I think the best choice is not to display the messages (even though, as with any behavior, there is always someone out there who wishes otherwise, no doubt for perfectly good reasons). I started a thread on having such a general variable, but -- my apologies -- I do not have time to actually implement it or even play honest broker in the discussion. So I'm withdrawing from that thread. If it results in actual code, though, I'll happily make whatever change to saveplace.el is needed to use the new system. -Karl