From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Lost antialias?
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:06:51 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d4mamr9w.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ur6arfbrc.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii writes:
> > > I actually think that it might be not a good idea to change the
> > > default font selection depending on the LANG setting. What are the
> > > advantages of such an approach? Are there other GUI applications that
> > > behave similarly?
> >
> > It's fontconfig that does it, not Emacs.
>
> But Emacs calls it, doesn't it? So we could set up things for the
> results to be consistent across LANG settings, if we decide that to be
> TRT.
You don't want to do that. The immediate counterexample is Japanese
and Chinese. There is a complete overlap in repertoire for the
Japanese syllabary, as well as a 90% overlap in the most common hanzi.
This means that there will be no way currently available to Emacs to
detect the "right" font for text/plain;charset=utf-8 unless you pay
attention to locale. This matters; Japanese and Chinese have quite
different tastes in glyphs, and as a non-reader of Chinese and a
non-native reader of Japanese, I have to say that to me, Chinese fonts
look more like pointillist art than text.
From the XEmacs sources:
/* #### It's my branch, my favorite charsets get checked first!
That's a joke, Son.
Ie, I don't know what I'm doing, so my charsets first is as good as
any other arbitrary order. If you have a better idea, speak up! */
I've been ragged on about this on several occasions over the last
three or four years, but I still don't have a better idea---and
neither do my detractors.
I don't claim to have worked on it systematically, but with that
history do you think it's worth the hard work it will take to come up
with a "good" generic ordering? That's up to you, of course.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-21 21:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-13 8:33 Lost antialias? Angelo Graziosi
2008-06-13 11:21 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-13 13:01 ` Angelo Graziosi
2008-06-13 17:55 ` Thomas Baumann
2008-06-17 12:33 ` Christian.Lynbech
2008-06-15 0:53 ` Angelo Graziosi
2008-06-16 2:03 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-16 2:06 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-16 5:55 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-16 6:30 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-16 11:36 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-16 16:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-17 0:46 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-17 18:01 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-17 20:28 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-17 21:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-17 22:16 ` Angelo Graziosi
2008-06-20 23:29 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-21 0:16 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-21 0:43 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-21 1:04 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-21 2:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-21 3:34 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-21 4:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-21 4:52 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-21 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-21 6:56 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-21 8:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-21 8:29 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-21 9:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-21 21:06 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2008-06-21 7:46 ` James Cloos
2008-06-21 7:57 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-21 8:15 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-06-21 11:40 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-21 11:33 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-21 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-21 19:42 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-22 1:57 ` James Cloos
2008-06-24 18:14 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-16 8:23 ` Angelo Graziosi
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