From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: vc-toggle-read-only mishandles CVS ro file in presence of CVSREAD=1 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:40:29 +0200 Message-ID: <87d4m5y3vm.fsf@ambire.localdomain> References: <87od5q9kbi.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87prq5yi0n.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87lk0ttxl0.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214405046 25731 80.91.229.12 (25 Jun 2008 14:44:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 25 16:44:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KBWEP-0008Bi-SM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:44:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35348 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBWDa-0007Pw-9E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:43:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBWDV-0007Mr-Im for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:43:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBWDT-0007LG-Or for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:43:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40631 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBWDT-0007L8-JJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:43:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [151.61.142.243] (port=49021 helo=ambire.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KBWDP-0000ZD-Hy; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:43:19 -0400 Original-Received: from ttn by ambire.localdomain with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KBWAf-0003J9-EH; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:40:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87lk0ttxl0.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:10:03 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99927 Archived-At: () Miles Bader () Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:10:03 +0900 On the other hand, the number of people who will avoid being confused and annoyed by the stupidity of vc-toggle-read-only will be _vastly_ greater. OK, you've convinced me. The other ~2, well they will survive... I will wait until ESR finishes wrangling w/ VC (end of July?) and then delete vc-toggle-read-only with the (proposed) NEWS entry: * Incompatible Editing Changes in Emacs 23.1 ** Command removed: vc-toggle-read-only If you think you need this, ask yourself: "Self, don't i feel less confused and annoyed now that that stupid vc-toggle-read-only is gone?". Realize the affirmative, take a deep breath, and turn your gaze to vc-next-action (normally bound to `C-x v v'). (That is, unless anyone objects.) thi