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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New sync'd branch
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:08:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d46f56nn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87prafliq3.fsf@telefonica.net

Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> writes:

> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>>> Yes, it is reasonably easy to blow up some operation terribly if you
>>>> don't know what you are doing.  Because git has lots of power.  But
>>>> you always can tell it: "Ok, this was a complete messup.  Give me
>>>> back what I had 20 minutes ago".
>>>
>>> I'll really apreciate a tool that does not make me waste those 20
>>> minutes.
>>
>> It saves you hours elsewhere.
>
> Compared against the other DVCS's? Not on my experience. git's speed
> advantage is not *that* large.

I did not say "hours in computing time".  Hours in manual labor.

>>>> It is very hard to actually do something which can't be undone.  You
>>>> have to really try.
>>>
>>> And this is different from other VCSs how?
>>
>> No impact on a central repository even when you tried some complex merge
>> and got it wrong.  Nobody gets to see your damaged foot.  You just
>> messed up your personal sandbox temporarily.
>
> I insist: and this is different from other VCS how?

First, it is different from all central-repository version control systems.

> Does git block you from sending your changes upstream when you messed
> up your personal repo?

Why would you want to send them upstream?

> If you screw up your personal branch, bzr notices it and maliciously
> sends the changes upstream without you asking for it?

If I screw up my personal branch, there won't be a copy upstream that I
can revert to.  That's what "personal branch" is all about.  In git, I
can revert my personal branch to its version of two hours ago without
ever bothering upstream, either read or write.  I can reconstitute _my_
branch.

>>> The typical Emacs developer is not like Torvads.  Emacs has a
>>> development style that is very far from Linux's.  Every example about
>>> how well git works specifically for Torvalds is moot.
>>
>> That sounds like "nobody will ever need a car, because people ride
>> horses quite differently than they would ride a car".
>
> Often, a car is the worst option as a vehicle.

I think we can stop here.

-- 
David Kastrup





  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-29  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-23 22:21 New sync'd branch Stefan Monnier
2009-08-23 22:35 ` joakim
2009-08-24 13:58   ` Leo
2009-08-24 19:24 ` Dmitry Dzhus
2009-08-25 17:44   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-26  8:31     ` Miles Bader
2009-08-26 19:04       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-27  3:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-27  4:47           ` Miles Bader
2009-08-27  5:38             ` Teemu Likonen
2009-08-28  8:34               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-27  6:33             ` Ken Raeburn
2009-08-27  7:08               ` Teemu Likonen
2009-08-27  7:14               ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-08-27  8:55                 ` Ken Raeburn
2009-08-27  9:07                   ` Miles Bader
2009-08-27 10:11                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-28  9:18             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-27  9:47           ` joakim
2009-08-28  9:04             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-28  9:12               ` Miles Bader
2009-08-28  9:19               ` Teemu Likonen
2009-08-28  9:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-28 13:03                   ` David Kastrup
2009-08-28 13:46                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-08-28 14:55                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-08-28 17:11                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-08-28 17:49                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-08-28 18:00                         ` David Reitter
2009-08-29  3:56                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-29 20:20                           ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-28 15:08                     ` David Kastrup
2009-08-28 17:21                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-08-28 19:33                         ` David Kastrup
2009-08-28 21:41                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-08-28 22:20                             ` Miles Bader
2009-08-28 22:55                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-08-29  0:17                                 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-29  9:08                             ` David Kastrup [this message]
2009-08-29 15:25                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-29  0:46                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-28 22:00                     ` Miles Bader
2009-08-28 14:01                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-08-28 14:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-28 14:13                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-08-28 14:33                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-28 14:44                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-08-28  9:38               ` joakim
2009-08-28  9:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-28 10:02                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-28 11:18               ` David Kastrup
2009-08-28 15:59               ` David Reitter
2009-08-27 21:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-28  8:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-27 21:52         ` Glenn Morris
2009-08-27 22:17           ` Chong Yidong
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-08-24 22:25 Nick Roberts
2009-08-25  9:29 ` joakim
2009-08-25 14:06 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-25 21:02   ` Nick Roberts

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