From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Rose Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs for new users Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:55:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87d438n6ee.fsf@gmx.de> References: <912155b0911230837i48326730m82e0d54d4004be59@mail.gmail.com> <4p4rt6-2ne.ln1@lesharris.com> <485b0c380911231316o72b32465m4444dbadf59aca9e@mail.gmail.com> <912155b0911231406j47893a76p6e94e929f39fe8ae@mail.gmail.com> <912155b0911231443t27cebcfetf7c61e5de9ccd7da@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259020589 15848 80.91.229.12 (23 Nov 2009 23:56:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Les Harris , Stephen Eilert , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Per =?utf-8?Q?Starb=C3=A4ck?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 24 00:56:21 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NCilY-0007nw-NG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:56:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54860 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NCilX-0001CQ-DC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:56:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NCike-0000rI-0v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:55:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NCikZ-0000pK-SQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:55:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48029 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NCikZ-0000p7-M2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:55:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:51335) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NCikY-00081F-0c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:55:18 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Nov 2009 23:55:14 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (EHLO beteigeuze.gmx.de) [92.117.53.121] by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 24 Nov 2009 00:55:14 +0100 X-Authenticated: #8529601 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19i4OAIqV9i8CuIx1CaWekCEEtduLQZsxQPwyFVIw 3/YP/QRSJivWV+ In-Reply-To: <912155b0911231443t27cebcfetf7c61e5de9ccd7da@mail.gmail.com> ("Per =?utf-8?Q?Starb=C3=A4ck=22's?= message of "Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:43:27 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.63 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117650 Archived-At: Per Starb=C3=A4ck writes: > I wrote >> As for CUA I just thought of something. What do you think about having >> s-x, s-c, s-v, s-z do the CUA >> thing in Emacs? Many people have keyboards with C-, s- and M- modifier >> keys. Maybe it would be acceptable >> for those used to these bindings that in Emacs you have to use another >> modifier key with "the normal stuff" >> since the usual "Alt key" is used by "special emacs commands"? > > I should have written "the usual Control key" in the last line of course! > > I've read up on what the "Windows key" is used for in MS Windows a > little now, and realize > this probably wouldn't be possible under MS Windows, but maybe in GNU > where that extra modifier > key often is "super" and not used for much. Well, since this the case since I use Emacs (10 years now), I use that modifier key. It's the one key binding that never broke. I'd suggest to _not_ bind anything to it by default. Also, keep in mind that lots of keyboards don't have that key (e.g. some IBM keyboards). Sebastian