From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrating package.el Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:04:11 -0500 Message-ID: <87d41ihx9g.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87k4w5lbyb.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87zl50jv52.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d41rn3wt.fsf_-_@hagelb.org> <87k4vxiwlj.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wcdjg9r.fsf@hagelb.org> <87637gh73j.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87637b96pc.fsf@hagelb.org> <87wrzr6ugo.fsf@hagelb.org> <87ocl242jc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263132279 24154 80.91.229.12 (10 Jan 2010 14:04:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, elpa@tromey.com, Phil Hagelberg , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 10 15:04:31 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NTyP8-0003dw-B8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:04:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45142 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTyP8-00057w-SK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:04:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTyP3-00056n-Ir for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:04:25 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTyOw-0004zs-KX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:04:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42421 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTyOw-0004zh-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:04:18 -0500 Original-Received: from pantheon-po19.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.75]:39491) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NTyOu-00049Q-Hy; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:04:16 -0500 Original-Received: from furry ([162.33.18.234]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po19.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0AE4CQT008150 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:04:12 -0500 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E981AC05D; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 07:04:11 -0700 (MST) In-Reply-To: <87ocl242jc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:33:59 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119781 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > > Naturally, it's up to whoever manually curates the index to ensure the > > package follows the guidelines for that archive. For the FSF archive(s) > > it would mean ensuring copyright assignment is in place; for folks who > > want to maintain their own archives it would probably be something > > simpler like making sure it's licensed as free software. > > > > I am worried that this will lead to a problem. > > Namely, there may be increasing numbers of packages > > that we can't get adequate papers for and can't put into Emacs. > > This is a problem as opposed to increasing numbers of packages that > are available only to their authors and you can't put into Emacs? At > least this way you'll have a contact address for authors. No, it's a valid concern. It's hard work hunting down papers and integrating packages. We must make sure a package system does not tempt us to just "dump and forget".