From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AW: Fwd: CEDET sync Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:02:37 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87d3zlen9e.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <4B8C42E2.3080308@siege-engine.com> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C09227D1F24@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C09225DFF6E@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <87eik2bt9m.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <871vg2y8pc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y6iaii3o.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87sk8ivyl3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877hptg8d4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20100303091039.GA10041@tomas> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1267610583 12284 80.91.229.12 (3 Mar 2010 10:03:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:03:03 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 03 11:02:59 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmlPu-0001B9-Qj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:02:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50025 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NmlPu-0008Qj-DO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:02:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NmlPn-0008QV-N0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:02:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60939 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NmlPm-0008QG-LJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:02:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmlPl-0006XG-Sa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:02:50 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:42550) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmlPl-0006XB-M5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:02:49 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmlPk-00013r-Om for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:02:48 +0100 Original-Received: from p5b2c2583.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.37.131]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:02:48 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c2583.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:02:48 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c2583.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DDRcVY8ZXX1UNgDx7aEAbMm+OzM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121596 Archived-At: tomas@tuxteam.de writes: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:41:27AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > > [...] > >> Your use of inflammatory language is likely doing more for your mood >> than for your argument. > > Note that I'm just a bystander with very little say in this. But I think > you are being unfair with Stephen here. He makes his points very > politely and insightfully. > > One might disagree with the points he makes (I actually agree on most!), > but his posts are far from inflammatory. Straight and clear, yes. I don't see his claim of Emacs developers having to do a "pledge of allegiance to Emacs" as polite, insightful, straight or clear. If he considers inappropriate and factually wrong rhetorics necessary to bolster his case, he might be playing with some success to the masses. But they are not the ones who can take up the issues he has. -- David Kastrup