From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Failing to see the allure of Emacs Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:22:24 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87d3yxe873.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1272996141 30806 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2010 18:02:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 18:02:21 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 04 20:02:20 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9MRn-0007o4-NT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 May 2010 20:02:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59189 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O9MRm-0006em-RY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 May 2010 14:02:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!uucp.gnuu.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:QHZWXh6yiRS98F4KpzU3Llc0Ca4= Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Mar 2010 21:22:25 CET Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 4be8a197.newsspool3.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=Z8i3FXh`1gDC4i^e1BZ=_HMcF=Q^Z^V3H4Fo<]lROoRA8kF5MOK` List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:73014 Archived-At: Daniel writes: > Hello, > > I started learning emacs 48 hours ago. The motivation for this was to > be able to do programming and general computing tasks through just > emacs. I've seen the wizards who are just doing all kinds of crazy > stuff--quickly. I am not sure what the benefit is now, though, after > going through the tutorial. > > Yes, I can edit text files and python files and java files no > problem. And I have no doubt that I'll get faster. But I thought that > I would never have to leave the emacs terminal window. > > So much of daily computing for anyone consists of pdfs, word, excel > documents, gmail, itunes, file browsing, etc. So I still have to > switch to the gui to do these things. Emacs views PDFs (and if you don't like how it does that, it is easy to start a viewer from within Emacs, from the minibuffer, a shell window, an Emacs shell or a number of modes from source files that ultimately generate PDF). It reads and sends mail and news. It does file browsing. It integrates tightly with version control systems. It keeps the calendar and other stuff. > But again, did I expect too much out of emacs? So far I find it to be > about as good as BBEdit . It's a text editor but no more. I expected > emacs to be the one program that ruled them all. It is not that dissimilar. Hobbits can resist pretty long. -- David Kastrup