From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Earl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How expansive "bzr update" for Emacs trunk? Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:11:37 -0600 Organization: XMission http://xmission.com/ Message-ID: <87d3u8svcm.fsf@notengoamigos.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291945630 7690 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2010 01:47:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 01:47:10 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 02:47:03 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQs4S-0006VV-IF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 02:47:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50671 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQs2l-0006uv-4u for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:45:07 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!elk.ncren.net!xmission!nnrp.xmission!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 48 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.214.244.122 Original-X-Trace: news.xmission.com 1280250548 7713 67.214.244.122 (27 Jul 2010 17:09:08 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@xmission.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAAAAAByaaZbAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAAAFz UkdCAK7OHOkAAAAgY0hSTQAAeiYAAICEAAD6AAAAgOgAAHUwAADqYAAAOpgAABdwnLpRPAAAAAlw SFlzAAASmwAAEpsB4JJZDAAAAAl2cEFnAAAAMAAAADAAzu6MVwAAAaFJREFUSMe1VtuxxSAIzIz9 2Iyl2Aj1bBX0k5+LrwjGjJyPy2ROwtGNBJbVCwwwy1UNoOL3f+SBxkj15Lr4NsboN24DWMZxYQNA TjGmjC1gswJiqBbpDeANYMwXBFyAFB5L7ADMBcoSDgAFBSDHR2tA8ABMSB4AawB76pAnILsKx2lm 1VfpgUi3kxrySylRHdmQj40Jva2/jl8EY3Twv/phhsC9nIQR0hnAOUptYsL3RxvAk+YIH2AWsvTH GYBgKn8GaPYm5jNANaCQ8WfAzyH9x0crFfGl9X4QVdg8gEqN2KjBHi6V/iBq6iyAxTqd+Yvupwai VwM9LZkxQ6otihmS6H+mHlK5URwi0UQgWxHoxS5JagBSed7IzJRCallS2pg2QsamcGUFNSHgLZUv augJIUualv1Bv6+yVat1oeMq92s/mBBWQJH7dQX7CnpvWWs/4CazpHlB2RR1BFSzNGdIaTbbLil8 U76BKKU0GztapXP3C78bNYQ6MTQybY8OkIaITf9HPzyHkXE4YXs4mf5VDz+jAepj3RTQ3Ubv0SPy 9AcCrfKh0TBgvgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAxMC0wNC0wNVQxMzoyNDo0OS0wNjowMHrq 7NAAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMTAtMDQtMDVUMTM6MjQ6NDgtMDY6MDCtwF/YAAAAAElF TkSuQmCC User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3FLlhWJ7/V2v9CpAKRCYFi9zB40= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:180116 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:09:20 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:77151 Archived-At: On Mon, Jul 26 2010, Oleksandr Gavenko wrote: > $ cat ~/devel/emacs/trunk/.bzr/branch/branch.conf > parent_location = http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/emacs/trunk/ > submit_branch = http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/emacs/trunk/ > bound_location = http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/emacs/trunk/ > bound = True > > I mark that "bzr update" take about 1 MiB for > "Finding Revisions" and a lot MiB > (5.5 MiB between yesterday and today). > > Is really bzr so dumb that require a lot of network traffic? > Or into Emacs sources go a lot of commit? > > I restricted with 3G or GPRS Internet connection. > One time a month commit I get about 5 hours > (~7 KiB/sec download speed)! > > Is bzr use plain (uncompressed) schema for > propagating changes? > > So may be good switch to ssh protocol and set compression? > > I also heir (but sorry if not correct) that bzr > developed for local network connection. > And for example if exist new changes it send > last 50 changeset even new only 1! A partial solution, if you don't need to commit is to use launchpad's mirror of the Emacs repository. To get the bzr+ssh access (that allows you to use the smart server) you'll have to actually have a launchpad account (and I think you need to upload a public ssh key), but it is a pretty big improvement over the dumb bzr server that is available from savannah. If signing up for launchpad.net is problematic then email me privately (the email address will work) and I will send you a link to a bzr mirror of the repository that I maintain that uses the straight bzr:// protocol and doesn't require any authentication. Alternatively there is a git mirror at: http://repo.or.cz/w/emacs.git I hope this is helpful. Jason