From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What level to put STARTTLS certificates Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:43:57 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87d3ie5tky.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87mxhisw21.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308195881 24987 80.91.229.12 (16 Jun 2011 03:44:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:44:41 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 16 05:44:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QX3VP-0000wB-UP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:44:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52151 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QX3VO-0006RZ-UP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:44:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40758) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QX3V8-0006RU-9b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:44:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QX3V4-00061g-CP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:44:14 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:35842) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QX3V4-00061a-3T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:44:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QX3V2-0000m8-9h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:44:08 +0200 Original-Received: from c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([67.186.102.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:44:08 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:44:08 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nt+VNZ+Pxs+3ohqo+xWPhEjqWe8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140530 Archived-At: On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:25:09 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> Why do you need a file: prefix? It should only work with local files >> (we pass the file names in `gnutls-boot' to GnuTLS with >> `gnutls_certificate_set_x509_key_file' so remote files can't work). We >> could support inlined certificates I guess, but it seems like it's >> better to assume the token is a file name and extend it later. It's by >> far the most common case and the only one gnutls.c supports right now. LMI> So you could say "password file:~/.foo" if you wanted to, if you (say) LMI> had some kind of system that generated passwords per Emacs session or LMI> something. LMI> So adding a file: name space would make it possible to extend the format LMI> unambiguously if something like that would be useful. But it would LMI> probably not be useful. :-) Let's default it to a file name, I think that's simplest and most standard. We can use a different key (tls-inline-key and tls-inline-cert) for inlining, and even tls-key-provider and tls-cert-provider for external programs. No need for a new URL scheme, especially since the Emacs file handlers already do a million things with a file name. Ted