From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The `link' face. Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:32:10 -0400 Message-ID: <87d3hkyeit.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310139165 10138 80.91.229.12 (8 Jul 2011 15:32:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 15:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 08 17:32:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfD2l-0002nd-Jl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:32:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40810 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfD2k-000465-E5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:32:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43875) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfD2O-00045L-Gd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfD2M-00064C-R1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:32:16 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-02.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.143]:42452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfD2M-000648-HW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:32:14 -0400 Original-Received: from furball (dhcp128036014112.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-02.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p68FWBl3022265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:32:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:15:22 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.143 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.132.50.143 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141799 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > - while the "blue underlined" might be considered "the standard link > appearance", when I look at web pages in my browser (with default > config), I see that old-style plain pages indeed use "blue underlined" > (and even bold for debbugs), whereas more modern designs > (e.g. wikipedia and many more) use something more subdued such as just > "blue with an underline for mouse highlighting", or even "nothing + > mouse highlighting" when the context makes it clear that it's a link > (e.g. for tab-like thingies, or menus, ...). There's obviously no way for us to know whether a button/link is going to be used in a context where it's clear that it's clickable. The "more modern designs" that you cite actuallly still use blue with an underline, with one key difference: they use a less saturated blue, not pure blue. That clashes less with a white background, which might go a long way to meeting your objections. How bout changing the color of the link face, on white backgrounds, to something like #244bbe?