From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Handling mail Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:39:05 -0700 Message-ID: <87d3hbjveu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <19998.64601.266213.844826@phoenix.squirrel.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310755784 15923 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2011 18:49:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:49:44 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 15 20:49:29 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhnS5-0006BK-9t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:49:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58531 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhnS4-0003R2-36 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:49:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38143) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhmMH-0008T1-L7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:39:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhmMC-0007tt-G8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:39:25 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:35885) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhmMC-0007te-3B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:39:20 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhmMA-0001rz-45 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:39:18 +0200 Original-Received: from 63.226.249.211 ([63.226.249.211]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:39:18 +0200 Original-Received: from eric by 63.226.249.211 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:39:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.226.249.211 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JmzCLtalb/XsmZWbjCEXk7hYf/g= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:81603 Archived-At: On Thu, Jul 14 2011, Johan Vromans wrote: > After having used GNU/Emacs+VM for 20-odd years I wonder: is it still > viable to use Emacs to handle modern mail? > > Most mail and mail-related packages (e.g. VM, BBDB, MailCrypt, WL) > seem to be outdated and unmaintained for years. Many problems exist > with multi-media mail, Unicode, and so on. > > Gnus seems to be the only package that is up-to-date (I use it for > reading news and mailing lists), however I've never been able to live > with it as a news reader. I'm very hooked to VM's virtual folders. > My dearest wish is to continue using Emacs for mail but currently this > feels like a dead end. > > What are your ideas and suggestions? > > -- Johan Try gnus, as others have said, and also BBDB is under fairly active development -- version 3 is underway. Some people have virulent reactions against it, but they must have some use-cases that I don't, because I've found it to work very well. E