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From: Jay Belanger <jay.p.belanger@gmail.com>
To: "Roland Winkler" <winkler@gnu.org>
Cc: 10554@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#10554: 24.0.92; No units specified (dimensionless quantities in Emacs Calc)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:53:04 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d3afdlfz.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20248.39483.716850.185512@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Roland Winkler's message of "Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:33:31 -0600")


>> I'll also change it so that Calc can offer unit systems and composite
>> units as default units, but that should probably wait until after 24.1
>> comes out.
>
> Agreed. This is nothing urgent.

Good; then this part will be taken care of as soon as 24.1 comes out.

>>From a different perspective, I'd say that "dimensionless" is as
> valid a unit as "kg" or "hbar / c". In that sense I'd say that there
> should be a possibility to pass this unit "dimensionless" as an arg
> to calc-convert-units, similar to any other unit that this function
> should use for its final result.

Currently, if Calc is asked to convert part of a units expression, it
will leave any unrequested units unchanged; for example, if 45 mi/hr is
on the stack and the units conversion is called with new units m, then
only the mi will be changed; 45 mi/hr will be converted to 72420.48 m /
hr.  To be consistent, I would think that converting to new units 1, all
of the units in the stack expression would be left alone.

> I'd say that "1" appears to be a natural choice in order to express
> the fact that Calc should obtain a dimensionless number.

I suppose you mean /try/ to obtain a dimensionless number.
Calc could have a command that will convert an expression to a
dimensionless number, if possible, or leave it unchanged, if it cannot
be converted to a dimensionless number.  I'm not sure that "u c" should
do such branching, but then I'm not sure this behavior is what you
meant.

Jay





  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-20  4:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-19  5:24 bug#10554: 24.0.92; No units specified (dimensionless quantities in Emacs Calc) Roland Winkler
2012-01-19 21:45 ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-19 22:33   ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-20  4:53     ` Jay Belanger [this message]
2012-01-20  8:34       ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-20 16:48         ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-20 17:55           ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-20 19:10             ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-20 20:30               ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-20 20:54                 ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-20 22:10                   ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-21  0:00                     ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-21  9:24                       ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-21 14:45                         ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-21 15:12                           ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-21 15:28                             ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-21 15:42                         ` Jay Belanger
2012-01-21 16:03                           ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-20 20:36               ` Roland Winkler
2012-01-21  4:21 ` Jay Belanger

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